low rotation

[mmmender]

overall, which ctblue album would you say you listen to the LEAST? i'm quite curious to see the results.

[Phil Lawton]

FCC has assumed the mantle of my "CT Turkey".

Having held the title for many years, Garlands has slipped to number two.

[someotherian]

this is tricky cos i haven't really been listening to several of those with any kind of regularity. ok, go ahead, call me a heretic and beat me with birch twigs. (what, you will?? ;) )

i voted for pink opaque

[steven]

garlands...rarely....

[zed]

well.........seeing as how my voteing abilties are messed up again and i can't vote,........i'm with Phil on this one.....FCC it is.

i just can't bear evangiline....or what ever it's called.

yuck. but the rest is ok,......but that cut ruins the whole thing for me.
i have no idea why.

zed

[iceblink]

I had to pick Victorialand. It is actually my favorite album. It is so beautiful that it hurts to listen to it. Whenever I hear it, it just gives me this overwhelming feel of melancholy. I am very sensitive to music, so I have to be careful sometimes. I can listen to it once and a while with out feeling sad, but those times are rare. Does anyone else feel this way, or understand what I mean?

[Lucibelle]

I had to vote for Garlands. It just has an edge to it that I'm not as fond of.

ctblue

[mattadore]

I think I can relate RE: "Victorialand". There's a line from an NME review for the "BBC Sessions" where the writer talks about "...wierdly wintry passions...". Something about that turn of phrase really nails "Victorialand" for me.

I'm kinda surprised by the big vote for "Garlands" on the poll... granted it's a debut LP and all, and Will's bass style was different then Simon's, but there's some classic material on there.

[watchlar]

Garlands

[Lucibelle]

Originally posted by watchlar
Garlands
Heh heh! Nothing like being straight and to the point! ;)

[dprid]

It was a toss-up between Victorialand & The Moon and the Melodies as I only very seldom listen to them to remind myself of why I don't listen to them (dull dull dull). I picked Moon because I have actually gone at most 3 years without listening to it whilst Victorialand normally manages a listen once a year - at least it's short!

[E-Lo]

Except for that massively cool, minimal ambient neo-dub version of Violane, this one bores me to death!

[ScottL]

My pick was Head over Heals...and by a mile...followed closely by Pink Opaque..but I generally don't bother with HoH, I have the BBC recordings which I like better than the respective tracks on HoH. My favorite is Tinderbox...

[mmmender]

Originally posted by ScottL
I generally don't bother with HoH

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[mattadore]

"Head Over Heels" seems like a real transitional LP to me... some of the material, like "In Our Angelhood", is reminiscent of Garlands, and other stuff on there, like "Sugar Hiccup", seems to light the way towards the developments that would take place on Treasure... it has some of their finest cover art, to be sure! A bit off-topic, but the 23 Envelope LP packaging was almost as much of an enticement for me early on as the music when I first was discovering CT. It definitely created this total aesthetic, the imagery matched the music, etc.

[Phil Lawton]

Matty

Have a trawl thru the archives here for a discussion on CT cover art.

Scott

You don't know how I'm resisting the temptation of replying to your HOH slur, but I've decided not to reply to opinions (unless that opinion is a favourable one about Nick "Couldn't Get A Pub Gig On The Strength Of That Material" Cave).

BTW, that lead guitar gig I mentioned to you is still in the works. I'll chat to you by mail or on Steph's server, m'boy.

[someotherian]

Originally posted by Lucibelle
I had to vote for Garlands. It just has an edge to it that I'm not as fond of.
i'm with mattyboyo on this one.. shame that many people are less fond of garlands.
the edge is precisely what makes it worth listening to IMHO. (and no i'm not talking about U2 :p )

[mattadore]

Aye! Listening to it right now. I've got all my CT on MP3 on my hard drive here at work to help pass the time...

"Winged water, feathered river, dirty rich soil, soft and fertile...".

I wonder what direction the band's career would have taken if they stayed with the Liz/Robin/Will lineup...

[JohnnyV]

amazing how the current results is how I would rank order them (at least the way I would today)...

i feel like such sheep...at least amongst a bunch of ecletic sheep.

John

[mborum]

For some reason, I think my answer is Head Over Heels. Honestly, I have no justifiable reason, because every time I DO listen to it, I am completely in love with it. It's definitely one of their most brilliant records, but I just rarely put it in the player. I listen to Garlands more, perhaps because it's so twisted and full of that young punk angst. In a bad mood and want to feed it? Listen to "But I'm Not."

[mmmender]

Originally posted by JohnnyV
i feel like such sheep...at least amongst a bunch of ecletic sheep.

lol, well put! roflmao

[mattadore]

Yeh, there's one tune on HoH that I really don't dig and that's "Multifoiled". I dunno why but that song kinda bugs me.

[mmmender]

but what about all those lovely m's?!

m-m-m-mu-mu-mu-multi-coloured, multifoiled

[mattadore]

LOL! The la-la-la-la-la's at the end are cool, also. I think it's the instrumentation I don't dig. It lacks that awesome ethereal quality that a tune like "When Mama Was Moth" has. It just sounds bit (I know this is sacrilege) faux-cocktail band at the Hilton Airport lounge-esque... ermmm... or something?

[mmmender]

oh the shame.

[mattadore]

I know, I know. :o

[mmmender]

bend over. it's time for a spanking.

phil?

[mattadore]

Just send me outside naked. It is ludicrously cold out today!

[mmmender]

you want cold? come to canada - i'll show you cold!

[mattadore]

I know all about Toronto cold, having spent some quality time in TO in Winter. There's nothing quite like waiting for the Queen Street trolley at midnight in the middle of January... holy wind tunnel! Montreal takes the cake though. :)

[Lucibelle]

Brrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!! It sure IS cold! Why, it's only 64 degrees outside! :D


roflmao

[watchlar]

LOL LUCI....damnit..i'm so pissed...it hasn't been under 73 for the past 3 weeks in Los Angeles...WHERE THE FUCK IS WINTER...GODDAMNIT

[ScottL]

Hehe...what a stir I've caused, you know I didn't say HoH was bad BTW...this thread is about what we listen to least. I listen to BBC, Stars and Topsoil and Pink Opaque, which leaves only a few songs strictly on HoH, that I like alot, namely When Mama was Moth and I don't mind Glass Candle Grenades...I pretty much always skip Multifoiled.

I don't disagree with what you all like about it...experimental, transitional etc , but a little like mborum, I just don't find myself putting it in much. I certainly am not reacting to other's least listened to(Phil)...its what you don't like to listen to..so what..saying I don't bother putting in HoH means just that...it isn't some proclamation about what is and isn't good. I just listened to both Garlands and HoH this morning after my first post, didn't change my basic urge really too much.

I'm not smitten with nostalgia for this album, if I had it back in 83 and wasn't a mere 10 years old at that time, it may be alot different, but that isn't the case. As a late comer, the earliest CT has grown on my steadily, I even bought HoH last year...anyway, there it is...

I also see what people don't like about Garlands...I put it in more than HoH tho and when I'm in the mood for that(quite apart from all other CT)...BBC also lessens my urge to put in Garlands too...I like the hard edge for what it is though in Garlands....feels like it ought to be the Bladerunner soundtrack or something.

PS. KC is no toronto..but with temps from 0 to 25(F) in the past few days (our usual winter low) it aint warm. I could never live somewhere with no seasons...I love the radical change of seasons and storms here on the plains.

[JohnnyV]

Originally posted by Lucibelle
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!! It sure IS cold! Why, it's only 64 degrees outside! :D

roflmao

I'm going to fill my car up with some Chicago air and drive to Florida (really fast) and freeze your Palm Trees.

:p

[mattadore]

Scott, good points, all. That's pretty cool that you were jamming out to CT as a mere ten year old.

It's colder in Boston than it is in Anchorage, Alaska right now... :eek:

[REPLICESS]

Can I just say ...

You are all wrong - 'Garlands' is an incredible, amazing, superb, brilliant album - and their best at that !!! :p :p :p :p

[mattadore]

Whoops, just realized I misread ScottL's last post... I missed the "if" part... got kinda inspired by the idea of a 10 year old grooving out to CT. :)

[steven]

Originally posted by watchlar
LOL LUCI....damnit..i'm so pissed...it hasn't been under 73 for the past 3 weeks in Los Angeles...WHERE THE FUCK IS WINTER...GODDAMNIT

Watchlar I lived 23 years in LA and "winters" past were cooler. It has to be global warming, cause LA has been getting warmer for the last decade.

S.

[mmmender]

Originally posted by REPLICESS
Can I just say ...You are all wrong - 'Garlands' is an incredible, amazing, superb, brilliant album

you tell em sista! :D

[mattadore]

Garlands does indeed rock! My fave CT LP changes depending on mood. As mborum pointed out, Garlands suits an angsty frame of mind. Victorialnd is really good for napping or chilling, and Treasure is a good soundtrack to read or paint to.

[mmmender]

Originally posted by mattyboyo1
Treasure is a good soundtrack to read or paint to.

you a painter??

[mattadore]

Yes, but only in my spare time (sigh). Haven't ever pursued it as a career option, as the whole schmoozing thing of networking at gallery openings and such is kind of a drag to me. Maybe if I cut off my ear...?

In all seriousness, it's primarily a creative outlet for myself at this point. The big thing I wrestle with is doing the 40 hour work week and still finding the steam to do some good work. I'm really into the abstract colourfield type of stuff, everything from Pollack and Rauschenberg to Motherwell and Kline, and the 23 Envelope CT designs. :)

[mmmender]

sounds wonderful. if you're keen on sharing some of your work - post a link.

you oughta hook up with zed, one seriously brillaint painter!
zed, where are you??????

[mattadore]

OK, I'm embarrased to admit I have to get off my duff and get my portfolio in order... some quality time with the digital camera is in order, I haven't photographed some of my "latest and greatest". One of my New Years resolutions was to get my act together as far as that all goes, so I better get cracking... :)

[mmmender]

*crack* i'm very interested *snap* in seeing your work *crack* so get busy *snap* and let us know when it's up and ready! (btw, next time i'll aim the whip!):eek:

[watchlar]

Originally posted by mmmender
*crack* i'm very interested *snap* in seeing your work *crack* so get busy *snap* and let us know when it's up and ready! (btw, next time i'll aim the whip!):eek:

AND she's not kidding about that whip...i STILL have welts...

[ScottL]

Originally posted by mattyboyo1
Whoops, just realized I misread ScottL's last post... I missed the "if" part... got kinda inspired by the idea of a 10 year old grooving out to CT. :)

yeah, I'm sure I'd have turned out much better if I had...:)

[Lucibelle]

By the way, just to let you know, we DO have seasons here in Florida. My favorite season is Spring, both weeks of it! :p

[zed]

................sorry ....i'd have been here sooner but i was, well, painting.:cool:

z.

[ScottL]

:D Got me there Luci, heh heh...I know, dynamic weather and all that, I saw a totally cool water spout down there, just as this tornado was touching down in the water(off in the distance :) ), you could see the darkness of the water starting to be sucked up into it, there in the glare of the sun....it was quite stunning to watch. No, thing is, I like to have deathly cold weather a little bit, it doesn't get cold enough for me down south. For me, the heat of the south is far more a pain..I get quite grumpy in heat...hehe...

sorry I'm off topic, I did remember one more thing, Phil, last time we had a chat about this you were talking about the guitar lead in Angelhood, I definitely think it sounds pretty cool, I don't dig her singing in that tune tho. I guess it seems kinda of choppy, but I was actually grooving to her wailing in M&D at the end there ..
edit:
after listening to Garlands and HoH, i had to go back and listen to the BBC again..heh...

[mattadore]

Originally posted by ScottL
after listening to Garlands and HoH, i had to go back and listen to the BBC again..heh...

Lately my favorite on there has been the "Strange Fruit" cover... man, it's eerie!

[iceblink]

Originally posted by mattyboyo1
Yeh, there's one tune on HoH that I really don't dig and that's "Multifoiled". I dunno why but that song kinda bugs me.


Oh ma god, I absolutely adore that song!!! It is so sexy and dirty. It is kind of cocktail lounge-esqe, but that is why I love it so much. HOH is actually one of my favorite albums. I mean "In our Angelhood" and "If Mama was Moth" alone make it one of their best, in my opinion anyways. And I also really like Garlands. It is so raw and punk rock.

[Phil Lawton]

It is so sexy and dirty

Ed Zackerly

[iceblink]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton

Ed Zackerly

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[mattadore]

I'll go out on a limb and hazard a guess that Ed Zackerly = "Exactly". It's either cockney rhyming slang or Phil is on another Speak and Spell bender. ;)

[Phil Lawton]

Matty

It's the tag line from a joke I posted on here ages ago about a woman who can't get a boyfriend. She's diagnosed as having "Ed Zackery Syndrome". The main symptom, according to the Chinese doctor in the gag, is when "your face look Ed Zackery like your arse".

[mattadore]

roflmao

Good times, good times...

[iceblink]

(Light bulb turns on in head)

Ohhhh!!!!! I get it!!!! That's hilarious!!

roflmao roflmao

[someotherian]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
It's the tag line from a joke I posted on here ages ago about a woman who can't get a boyfriend. She's diagnosed as having "Ed Zackery Syndrome".
how come you didn't type Ed Zackery then? ;)

[mmmender]

ed zackerly
ed zackery

i can tell this is gonna be another one of those semantics threads that i'm so fond of!

[mattadore]

Ah well, if it's to be semantics, then I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

I know, I'm fired. I'll pack my stuff and go...

:rolleyes:

[mmmender]

it depends.
what's in the bottle? ;)

[mattadore]

Well, in my case, hopefully something intoxicating. Make mine a Guinness... some Bush Mills or a nice Pinot Noir will do the trick in a pinch as well.

[mmmender]

speaking of guinness.....did you know that they've got a vote going on their website where they're trying to make st. patrick's day a national holiday? anyway if you're interested......go here to vote: http://www.guinnessvote.ca/

[mattadore]

Doh! Unfortunately it appears you must reside in Canada to participate in the vote. More's the pity, as I live in what is arguably the most Irish city in North America, (that being Boston). It's really the day after we need off, anyway... to recover. :)

[mmmender]

well the best thing about toronto is that not only are there loads of irish (myself included) but this city has recently been voted the most ethnically diverse city in the world by the united nations!

[mattadore]

It's true... you've got that huge Chinatown, the Danforth Greek scene, a large Carribean community, all those Russian folk over by Queen/Ronces, etc. Toronto rocks!

Boston is sadly quite white and not as diverse, but we've got loads of right-off-the-boat folks from Eire here. :)

[mmmender]

re: your knowledge of this fair city - consider me impressed!!!!!!

[mattadore]

Ah well, I try to see the world, ya'know? To be fair, I should mention that Mrs. mattyboyo1 grew up in Toronto, and I spent a lot of time up there winning her heart before stealing her away back down here to Boston.

Now... standing on the glass floor at the top of the CN Tower... that gives me the heebie-jeebies.

On a different note, I had a good laugh this morning when I was driving to work. MIT radio (WMBR 88.1 for those in the Boston area) has a great morning show called "Breakfast Of Champions", and the Friday morning DJ, Jon, is my fave. He plays loads of 4 AD type stuff and other quality tunes as well (this morning he played a 15 minute epic from the new Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds LP, "Nocturama" that rocked my socks off)... so, in any case, he announced that at ManRay (this local Goth/Industrial-type dance club over in Cambridge) they are having a "Miss Gothic Massachusetts" pageant tonight.

Miss Gothic Mass website (http://www.missgothicmass.com/)

Apparently these pageants have been going on in other cities for a while, guess Boston is behind the times. Looks to be a car-crash of fashion on parade. ;)

I almost want to go, just to see the big hair and fabulous black outfits - torn between that and checking out Johnny Marr's new band at the Paradise...

[chevelu]

i voted for the moon and the melodies but that's just becuz i only got it on vinyl and i don't have a turntable right now (i'm saving my money...)

speaking of Garlands, that's one i often listen to, when i'm in the mood for CT ofcourse.

when i listen to CT it's either Garlands, Victorialand or Treasure.
those are winter-records.

come summertime, i'm all into Four Calendar Cafe, M&K, BBK and 1st half of Heaven or Las Vegas.

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