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mmmender
Apr-5-03, 10:19 AM
how does your "significant other" feel about cocteau twins? do you ever get into huge fights about your obsession with the band? are they a fan of the band as well? did they only get into the band because of you? do you think it's important that couples listen to similar music?
.............you can have no idea how much the ex, significant
utterly and totally hated them.....and yes huuuggee fights ensued..........usually ending with me turning it off in a cold rage.
just to stop the yelling.:mad: :mad:
now, since the significant no longer is,........and my dog is deaf,....(taught him sign language,..how cool is that.) i listen in blissfull freedom at volumes that crack plaster.!:D
Z.
ps,.......to much info ?:o
pps,.....yeah, listening to at least overlapping(;) ) music is , or could be nice,..i imagine.
dynamine
Apr-5-03, 12:19 PM
i'd vote,but where's the box for more than 1 sig. other?
:p
mmmender
Apr-5-03, 12:32 PM
sorry, i didn't have polygamists in mind when authoring the poll.
:rolleyes:
dynamine
Apr-5-03, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by mmmender
sorry, i didn't have polygamists in mind when authoring the poll.
:rolleyes:
roflmao
My significant other had never heard of them when we first met. Me playing them, plus her lurking on here has now brought her onside however and she's a fan (even if she like Victorialand best :rolleyes: )
My husband thinks they're great although he (suspiciously) has the same favorites as myself. He has been the one to go around Texas and the internet getting me all the stuff I don't have. One day while I was at work (when I was gainfully employed) he downloaded everything CT he could find through Kazaa (music and videos) and had them waiting for me when I got home. What a sweetie!kiss1
Fuzzguitar
Apr-5-03, 3:54 PM
(Grrr...why can't I vote??)
My significant other cannot bear the sound of the Cocteau Twins. He will leave the room or make gagging noises until I change the music to something more acceptable to him. He only ever does this when I'm playing the Cocteaus and otherwise our musical tastes are very similar. Which is annoying.:mad:
However, despite the fact that he claims to abhor Elizabeth Fraser's voice, he will quite happily to listen to 'Primitive Painters', 'Be Still' or 'Teardrop'. The perverse bugger.
He did actually accompany me to a CT gig once. But he has never let me forget how excruciating it was for him...
watchlar
Apr-5-03, 4:02 PM
Originally posted by Fuzzguitar
He did actually accompany me to a CT gig once. But he has never let me forget how excruciating it was for him...
Ouch....
.............geez, poor baby,.......the pain you musta put him through.
you beast! a WHOLE concert!:rolleyes:
Z.roflmao
Lucibelle
Apr-5-03, 4:58 PM
I'm lucky in that James is very open minded in a lot of ways. He's a musician as well and appreciates all kinds of music. So while he doesn't share the obsessiveness over them that I do, he does genuinly enjoy them! :)
What he does not like, however, is my little dog. :( He doesn't like that she barks, or has fur, or wants attention.:rolleyes: Of course, it's ok that HE barks, has fur, wants attention...;)
Pale Clouded
Apr-5-03, 5:16 PM
Originally posted by Lucibelle
What he does not like, however, is my little dog. :( He doesn't like that she barks, or has fur, or wants attention.:rolleyes: Of course, it's ok that HE barks, has fur, wants attention...;)
I had the same problem with my estranged husband (who by the way introduced me to the Cocteau Twins, and then complained that I played them too much!) :rolleyes: , anyway he didn't like my dog either, and she didn't like him. She would growl at him all the time. LOL! Guess she knew he was an ass all along. However, I don't let the fact that he introduced me to the Twins ruin my love for thier music.......CT's music is way beyond that to me! :D
Oh, my current partner doesn't really get Cocteau Twins, but loves my dog!
someotherian
Apr-5-03, 8:25 PM
Originally posted by Angel
My husband thinks they're great although he (suspiciously) has the same favorites as myself. He has been the one to go around Texas and the internet getting me all the stuff I don't have.
yes, but does he locate mandolin strings in the middle of austin? :)
Originally posted by Fuzzguitar
My significant other cannot bear the sound of the Cocteau Twins...
He did actually accompany me to a CT gig once. But he has never let me forget how excruciating it was for him...
this reminds me (unfortunately) of my ex-wife (i refuse to classify her as a significant anything)...
i dragged her along to a cocteau gig once (at the town and country club, brixton), and all i remember her saying about it was "why don't the songs have proper endings?"
(insert 'bewildered' icon here).
she also admitted to me once that the only ct track she really liked was lorelei.. especially the rising vocal bit that goes "do-do-dooo".
suffice to say that i can't really listen to this track now without thinking of her ( vomitsm ).
but to answer leesa's question about liking the same kinds of music.. i don't think it's essential, but i do think it's good to have at least some common musical ground. personally i think music is quite an important area in a relationship. at very least there should be a basic agreement about what constitutes decent music.
my ideal partner would obviously be a BIG cocteau twins fan, but if you happen to live for country and western.. well, you know where the door is! :D
Take or leave, I'm afraid. He will ask at times "which is that one I like??" Tishbite, of course. Or the Otherness Cherry Coloured Funk.
As a singer, he really admires Liz's vocals, but he just doesn't get the whole package the way we do. I've had better success selling this Judy Garland fan on Lisa Gerrard -- He actually choregraphed a moving dance to Sanvean in his own show, so that was a victory. (I must confess I, at the same time, have come to appreciate some of what Ms. Garland has to offer. My how our partners can change us!)
I suspect despite what my girlfriend says openly, she does not care for the twins very much, despite my persistent subtle musical persuasion via different complilation tapes in the car. I think she really has a difficult time getting over the whole "I can't understand her" thing, which isn't really the point in my mind. I do find she seems to tolerate the songs she can make out the words too (Summerhead, for example). Thankfully, we have so much more in common!
Steven
iceblink555
Apr-6-03, 4:51 AM
Where's the option for "My significant other hasn't heard the CT yet"?!
Yes, believe it or not, I've been with my current girlfriend for 6 mos. and still haven't played any CT for her! I *could* use the excuse that all my CT stuff is in storage a coupla thousand miles away... but I do have my MP3's with me, which I've been *meaning* to play for her sometime. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
As for previous s.o.'s, I've converted almost all of them to one extent or another, although none became true fanatics like us ;-) I recall that one girlfriend really liked SttSiren, as well as the rest of It'll End in Tears, and she really liked the Liz tracks on Mezzanine. But for most, I think it was just OK.
I used to think this was very important for a relationship, but now I don't think it's such a big deal. I believe there has to be at least some general compatability music-wise, but maybe not right down to the specific bands. --Alan
REPLICESS
Apr-6-03, 9:43 AM
yeah - Simon likes them alot.
For me, it's essential that my partner has similar musical tastes, as music is such a huge part of my life.
my husband is into hardcore/punk/thrash.
when we first got together, i made him a mix tape that included CT.....he enjoyed it (or so he said) but more simply because it reminded him of me.
ocassionally i'll come home to find he has scoured the record shops for something CT related that i hadn't already owned.
i like the fact that we have our differences musically. although our punkrock roots brought us together in the first place....so we've still got that incommon.
Fuzzguitar
Apr-6-03, 1:13 PM
Originally posted by zed
.............geez, poor baby,.......the pain you musta put him through.
you beast! a WHOLE concert!:rolleyes:
Z.roflmao
I know, I know...I'm a cruel wench aren't I? The way he talks about it (even now, years later) you'd think he'd had his scrotum sandpapered...
I'm getting my own back by indoctrinating our son into the Way of Cocteau. music2 Heh heh heh (evil laugh).
Lucibelle
Apr-6-03, 1:23 PM
Originally posted by Fuzzguitar
I know, I know...I'm a cruel wench aren't I? The way he talks about it (even now, years later) you'd think he'd had his scrotum sandpapered...
jawdropper Geez!! What a visual!!!
whoa! fuzz,.........after that i'll be walkin funny most all day.
ya gotta be carefull around me,........i've got WAAAY to much imagination.:eek: :eek:
Z.roflmao
Phil Lawton
Apr-6-03, 5:43 PM
The present Mrs Lawton is pretty ambivalent. She likes the vocals...can even tolerate an album's worth, but objects to one put on 'repeat'.
Tah....women, uh? You can't live with 'em, you can't bind them in barbed wire and dump them on a country road somewhere.
What's a chap to do?
You can't live with 'em, you can't bind them in barbed wire and dump them on a country road somewhere.
Men....a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle!
;)
No, seriously.....I am 'the other woman' in my partner's CT obsession.....he's the one who introduced them to me. I must confess that the lyric thing bothered me at first, but now that I know I'm not really supposed to understand every word, I like the music a lot better. Reminds me of singing whales (meant as a compliment if any actual CT reads this!). I couldn't call myself an obsessed fan yet, but I do like them the more I hear them.
D
someotherian
Apr-6-03, 9:34 PM
Originally posted by steven
I suspect despite what my girlfriend says openly, she does not care for the twins very much, despite my persistent subtle musical persuasion via different complilation tapes in the car. I think she really has a difficult time getting over the whole "I can't understand her" thing
maybe now she understands how us men feel! :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Fuzzguitar
I know, I know...I'm a cruel wench aren't I? The way he talks about it (even now, years later) you'd think he'd had his scrotum sandpapered...
you know, there are people that pay a lot for (and make a lot from) this kind of treatment..? ;)
etherspeak
Apr-7-03, 1:12 AM
My sig other likes the Cocteau twins but ever time I Get excited about the new rare Cocteau Twins item I bought. he responds woth .. those are only things - material trappings.
Lucibelle
Apr-7-03, 1:21 AM
Originally posted by etherspeak
My sig other likes the Cocteau twins but ever time I Get excited about the new rare Cocteau Twins item I bought. he responds woth .. those are only things - material trappings.
Sure, until it's something that HE wants! ;)
Reminds me of singing whales
bwahhahahahaahahah.
mmmender
Apr-7-03, 5:08 PM
my signifcant other could take 'em or leave 'em! 12votes, 38.71%
no wonder we're here alone most of the time.
this is the ONLY place i'm understood.
cue music.
Lucibelle
Apr-7-03, 5:38 PM
Originally posted by mmmender
my signifcant other could take 'em or leave 'em! 12votes, 38.71%
no wonder we're here alone most of the time.
this is the ONLY place i'm understood.
cue music. Should be quite interesting when we all get together for Cocteaufest! ;)
fredofla
Apr-7-03, 6:09 PM
Originally posted by Colin
Take or leave, I'm afraid. He will ask at times "which is that one I like??" Tishbite, of course. Or the Otherness Cherry Coloured Funk.
As a singer, he really admires Liz's vocals, but he just doesn't get the whole package the way we do. I've had better success selling this Judy Garland fan on Lisa Gerrard -- He actually choregraphed a moving dance to Sanvean in his own show, so that was a victory. (I must confess I, at the same time, have come to appreciate some of what Ms. Garland has to offer. My how our partners can change us!)
....ah, the ever amazing Judy Garland; well, wasn't she kinda like the Liz Fraser of her own day (albeit a bit more on the dramatic side of things.)
my SO (of 22+ years by the way) is, of all things, a full-fledged doctor of musicology from UCLA with a special interest in the Baroque and literature for the oboe d'amore.
he is patient, but at times rather mocking, of my CT obsession; he doesn't quite understand this whole "ethereal" thing that is the focal point of my music collecting.
when it comes to pop, he far prefers stuff like Sade or Kruder And Dorfmeister to CT......both of which i could either take or leave.
we don't agree much about classical music either; i prefer Mahler, Schoenberg, Scriabin and he doesn't (preferring instead the more conservative music of a Bach or a Brahms.)
we both DEFINITELY agree about Mozart, Stravinsky, Satie and Benjamin Britten.
so maybe this is ultimately what keeps us together after so many years......these bits and peices of major agreement in a world of differences.
ciao.
FRED of LA
np: Under Byen "Sylfiden"
mattadore
Apr-8-03, 10:03 AM
Aggghhh! Take or leave Kruder & Dorfmeister? Just kidding, Fred, but I'm a big K & D fan so you must have hit a nerve. ;)
Have you heard any of their side projects, like Tosca or Peace Orchestra? Peace Orchestra, in particular, might be somewhat up your alley...
fredofla
Apr-8-03, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by mattadore
Aggghhh! Take or leave Kruder & Dorfmeister? Just kidding, Fred, but I'm a big K & D fan so you must have hit a nerve. ;)
Have you heard any of their side projects, like Tosca or Peace Orchestra? Peace Orchestra, in particular, might be somewhat up your alley...
loved the first Tosca album (the Chocolate Elvis one.)
thought Tosca "Suzuki" was a big yawner.
just heard Tosca "Delhi" and like about a third of disc 1, and most of the piano/ambient from disc 2 (but held off on buying it because i knew my SO probably would.....and he did! that very same day, in fact.)
owned the first Peace Orchestra album for only a short time, and then sold it.
i believe there is a remix album of this one that better suits me, though i have yet to make any real effort to get it.
my biggest complaint about K&D and Peace Orchestra is a rather stodgy reliance on standard "pre-set" beat sounds.......wish they would experiment more with sampled beat sonics a la Matthew Herbert (an artist that i would highly recommend to CT fans who can tolerate a kind of lite but inventive micro house.)
FoLA
mattadore
Apr-9-03, 12:44 PM
I can understand that K&D/Peace Orchestra/Tosca are not your cup of tea (*he said somewhat begrudgingly* ;))... knowing a little of your tastes from our discourse here on the boards, I would suggest you listen intently to Disc 2 of the new Tosca release, I think it's worthwhile, in a Budd sort of vein. There is indeed a Peace Orchestra remix CD, but I have only listened to snippets at a Virgin megastore listening station. My favorite K&D release is definitely "The K&D Sessions". The Roni Size & Reprazent "Heroes" remix is transcendent IMHO. E-Lo, you have to check that out if you haven't yet!
He likes them (he has no choice, really), but he cannot deal with the fact that there are no real lyrics most of the time. (I know, I know, how annoying.)
He agrees that Liz has perhaps the most amazing voice ever, but the lyrics thing really bugs him. He's a writer, and he says he "needs his music to have some narrative focus."
Even when I tell him the lyrics to the songs that actually have them, he says, "Well, then why doesn't she sing it so we can understand them better?"
I suppose I should count my blessings and be glad he enjoys listening anyway.
666
Michael
Lucibelle
Apr-9-03, 1:41 PM
Originally posted by mborum
"Well, then why doesn't she sing it so we can understand them better?"
Well, why doesn't the boss hand out more promotions? Why doesn't the government do things my way? Why aren't there more raisins in my cereal? Blahblahblahblahblahblahblah.....:rolleyes:
;)
....luci..........simple, you picked up the wrong box.;)
Z.:cool:
mattadore
Apr-9-03, 2:32 PM
Those... aren't... raisins!!!
Lucibelle
Apr-9-03, 2:39 PM
roflmao
The truth is that many of my friends and family of most generations have actually picked up on something in the CT's music that they like. Certainly they've had their less accessible moments but many many coffee-table suited ones too.
My fiancee Carine would count Cocteau Twins among her top ten bands. We share shockingly similar tastes. Two of our top three are the same. It is the first such relationship I've been in and it feels truly wonderful for many reasons but certainly including music. Let me be clear I wasn't looking for a clone. It's always the differences that interest me the most. (Put that on my tombstone) However it is so good to be able to discuss music, old and new alike with somebody who understands me.
My previous relationship (Paula) liked the CT's but in general hated my music. In addition, I loathed hers with a passion (Robbie Williams, Savage Garden, Westlife, Stereophonics) The only decent thing she had was Travis who I amazingly discovered were quite special once you dig behind those watery singles.
Our musical differences were the cause of some tension in our life and I'm sure underlying resentment grew.
My ex-wife loved CT's but she came from an Enya, All About Eve, Clannad direction which wasn't really me. That was ended for non musical reasons.
I'll shut up now.:D
andylama
Apr-9-03, 7:00 PM
My S.O. likes 'em when she hears 'em, but it's probably one of those "because it reminds her of me" things. She likes my Pearly Dewdrops Tour Poster a lot, but that's one of those Gertrude Kasebier things...
I could NEVER love anyone who "hates" CT. Period.
...and while I'm here on my soapbox, I think the mindset that gets hung up on "not liking CT because they can't understand the lyrics" is hopelessly un-artistic and small-minded!
I think the unintelligible lyrics is one of the primary reasons I ever liked CT in the first place. Needless to say, Twinlights makes me cringe.
Who needs intelligible lyrics anyway? They're usually a bore...or worse.
OK, so I'm a CT snob, so what?!
kookaburra
Apr-9-03, 7:10 PM
Originally posted by andylama
...and while I'm here on my soapbox, I think the mindset that gets hung up on "not liking CT because they can't understand the lyrics" is hopelessly un-artistic and small-minded!
But isn't this statement, itself, a bit small minded?
Originally posted by andylama
...and while I'm here on my soapbox, I think the mindset that gets hung up on "not liking CT because they can't understand the lyrics" is hopelessly un-artistic and small-minded!
A lesson I learnt very early on was never to pass judgement on other peoples musical tastes, or to assume from appearances and demeanour what people would be into. Musical taste is no different to any other kind of taste - everybody is different. If people need discernable lyrics in music then that's because it's what they like. They probably couldn't put into words why they feel like that, it's just the way they are. It's nothing to do with being un-artistic or small-minded - they just don't like it!
andylama
Apr-10-03, 3:42 PM
Oh, c'mon I didn't mean it THAT seriously. That's why I added the joke about being a "CT snob" (which I'm not). I do love CT, but (my dark little secret) never felt that "magical shivery feeling" after the release of FCC. (gasp!)
I'm the first one to acknowledge that "everybody doesn't like something", and like personal opinions in general, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference unless you let it.
Having said that, I will add that there was *some* sincerity in my comments about "not understanding the lyrics": Wouldn't that automatically shut you out of appreciating music from any other culture, where the singer is singing in a different language? If I proclaimed that I hated African music, because I don't understand the lyrics, who here wouldn't (at least secretly) think I was being rather petty? Just something to think about.
Peace & love
Andy
watchlar
Apr-10-03, 4:43 PM
Originally posted by andylama
Wouldn't that automatically shut you out of appreciating music from any other culture, where the singer is singing in a different language?
hey Andy...thanks for your frankness and honesty about the issue of decipherable lyrics
some of my favorite musical pieces...classical or otherwise...contain lyrics that i have no idea what is being said. it's the feeling you get perceptually...not the meaning...i love middle eastern music...i love the way some of it makes me feel
but i understand what you are saying...some people have the need to understand the lyrics
it's all a matter of personal taste
mattadore
Apr-10-03, 5:06 PM
Has anybody ever seen that book, "Scuse Me While I Kiss This Guy"? It's a book of lyrical interpretations that are hillarious... I had a friend who used to think the lyrics to "Sprits In The Material Word" by The Police actually were: "Must... have been... the cereal Oscar ate...".
http://64.95.118.51/images/opti/68/ac/0671501283-resized200.jpg
Maria Jose
Apr-10-03, 9:03 PM
Lyrical misinterpretation can be SO very hilarious!
There's this website somewhere called the " Cocteau Twins Fanatical Journey" :o , where one of the posts relates this little girl singing along to Pandora,near the end,where Liz releases her voice wonderfully.
The kid sang (American English , please) :
" Peanut butter , peanut butter " and then faster !
:rolleyes:
watchlar
Apr-11-03, 3:18 AM
i voted on this poll...but i didn't know what to post really when i first thought about it...
i just listened to BBK through my headphones....it's late...and I realize how amazingly fortunate it is for someone who has a passion for this music...for this beauty...to be able to share that passion with another human being in an intimate relationship...that must just be incredible...
iceblink555
Apr-11-03, 6:15 AM
I think this issue of lyrics has got to be the most divisive one among CT fans! I don't think anything makes us get at each other's throats quite like this does.
I like what Liz says on the interview pic disc about the attempts to decipher her lyrics (paraphrasing): "I think it's sad, really. I think they should take advantage of it." To me, this says it all. The lyrics are intended to be interpreted by the individual listener, and maybe not even the same way each time that person hears them. I know the "words" have certainly taken on different meanings for me over the 14 years I've been listening to them. For me, this is one of the most fascinating things about the CT. The lyrics are in a constant state of metamorphosis! To perceive them changes them. They can't be tied down. --Alan
andylama
Apr-11-03, 1:08 PM
Watchlar, thanks. I was worried there that I was about to get flamed for being some sort of fascist or something! (I honestly had no idea that the decipherability of CT lyrics was an "issue" at all, let alone a divisive one!) :confused:
As a fan of world music, I (ironically) find that oftentimes when I learn what the lyrics are to any given tune, I am often disappointed or even embarrassed by the subject matter. In the case of world music, remember that most non-western cultures are highly traditional (read: sexist, homophobic, zealous), and the subject matter of non-classical songs tends to be um, how shall I put it?...less than poetic, or even mildly offensive to western sensibilities. All this regardless (or in spite of) of how "hip" the instrumentation is.
BTW, what's with your "bleu" icon with the strange images? what is that? It's very intriguing.
Smiles, everyone, smiles!
Andy
andylama
Apr-11-03, 1:16 PM
Iceblink555,
Yes, yes! My sediment [sic] exactly!
I've been an avid listener since the release of Treasure, and for me, the title of the song usually evokes some lush mental landscape, and whatever the words sound like to me at the time...play into this mental image.
For me, that's interpretation enough. (Is that perhaps what Liz meant in the aforementioned interview? I haven't heard it.)
When I heard Twinlights, with the clear, unambiguous lyrics, I was nothing less than crestfallen (sorry Twinlights lovers!) because Liz (for her own personal reasons which I shall not belittle) had taken away my ability to mentally interpret her sounds. (not to mention that these new lyrics were "somewhat less than poetic" IMO [strictly IMO])
As you can see, I'm really practicing "flame avoidance" now :D
Andy
watchlar
Apr-11-03, 2:33 PM
Originally posted by andylama
As you can see, I'm really practicing "flame avoidance" now :D
Andy roflmao ;) Well andy as you may have well noticed...flaming isn't too painful on this board...it's more like flogging ...as i can very much attest to from my "it's too beautiful thread"roflmao
fredofla
Dec-11-03, 3:18 PM
this post by Watchlar dates from April 2003.
shouldn't this point be reflected somewhere in the outter main-pages listings?
and shouldn't we also respect the fact that Watchlar is no longer posting here?
imo, this kind of thing (for the purpose of drumming up activity) is very misleading.
am i the only one who feels this way?
frankly, it's frustrating to see a NEW post from Watchlar and then realize that, no, this thing is from month's ago.
and Watchy isn't back again afterall.
personally, i hate that feeling.
FRED of LA
mmmender
Dec-12-03, 1:09 AM
fred, it's because the thread contains a poll that if someone browses through the archives and opts to vote on a poll it automatically bumps the thread back up and the vbulletin program considers the vote as an addition to the post, thereby adding a new post icon to the thread. keep in mind this thread was in the archives which indicates that it was an old thread, but i have (because of our additons) moved this thread back to the active pandora's box forum.
thread viewers need only view the first post of a given thread to see the date on which the thread was started.
i hope this answers your questions.
sanvean
Dec-16-03, 2:37 PM
well, i have no significant others (i don't even have friends), but i'm sure that if i had them they would hate cocteau twins, as everybody around me has always hated the things i love.
My mate isn't really a big music fan. Ce's more into chasing tranis around the countryside and taking photos of them. He can take or leave CT. He's quite funny really. He doesn't know much about music - he just likes to have relatively mellow stuff on in the background, so CT tends to fit. Two days ago I came home after work to find him reading with a Black Tape for a Blue Girl CD on as background...
Umm..
The second sentence should read "He's more into chasing trains around the countryside..."
Originally posted by Daphne
[B] Men....a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle!
Gawd am I glad I'm gay and I don't have to put up with this shit.
My sugarbear *LOVES* CT, to the point of attempting to sing along with Liz. He doesn't come close, but I melt when he does. So I play CT often around him because whenever I do the room fills with cartoon hearts.
Best romantic moment between us -- snuggling on the couch, drinking hot chocolate, listening to music and talking, with an extra snuggle and passionate smooch happening when "Rilkean Heart" came on. Dim the lights, you can guess the rest.
Originally posted by iceblink555
I like what Liz says on the interview pic disc about the attempts to decipher her lyrics (paraphrasing): "I think it's sad, really. I think they should take advantage of it." To me, this says it all. The lyrics are intended to be interpreted by the individual listener, and maybe not even the same way each time that person hears them. I know the "words" have certainly taken on different meanings for me over the 14 years I've been listening to them. For me, this is one of the most fascinating things about the CT. The lyrics are in a constant state of metamorphosis! To perceive them changes them. They can't be tied down.
Well, you see, when I've got CT on and I feel like singing along I just sing what I hear. I don't attempt to make it "fit words" .... just what I hear. So for me the words to "Athol Brose" are something like "rrrrrem d'lem seedy bawl, rrrrrem d'lem seedy bawl", etc. Never quite figured out why people couldn't get that maybe the point was to express yourself without words or images getting in the way.
kookaburra
Dec-17-03, 3:15 AM
Originally posted by gkjsooley
The second sentence should read "He's more into chasing trains around the countryside..."
Thank God! I thought this was some new 'gay' or genderless pronoun.
Originally posted by kookaburra
Thank God! I thought this was some new 'gay' or genderless pronoun.
Kook, by the time I noticed the error, the 5 minute edit limit was up. I figured I'd better jump in with a follow up post before BTS had a chance to get his 2 cents in!
:cheers:
grnfaerie
Dec-29-03, 5:26 PM
loving CT is like a prerequisite for who i chose to partner with.
maybe thats why i used previous incarnations of this board as my own personal dating service.
met my husband thru the mailing list way back when.
recently, in a High Fidelity-like mindset, i made a compilation cd for my new girl. it included some favs from The Cure, TMC, etc, etc as well as some random items and of course a CT song.
she told me a few days later after having listened to it that "I liked them all alot except that one at the end...who was it....Cocktoo Twins". i of course clutched my chest and begged her to call 911. when she finished laughing we agreed that if that's as bad as it gets we can probably figure a way around it.
so...i wouldn't say she 'hates' them but she didn't ask me to marry her either
guess i'll have to wear her down in to CT submission over time. she will capitulate.
noboybands
Jan-2-04, 9:18 PM
my other half's not a cocteau fan, but he does like 'this love'
he did also get annoyed with me for getting more excited about liz's contribution to the soundtrack for 'the two towers' than the rest of the film, even though he did criticize the film for not being faithful to the book, but i'll persist and get him converted - he must have good taste, he's going out with me after all
My girl really hates the Cocteaus to the point of singing along to the music in a quasi "angelic" voice when I play their CDs just to tease me. The first time I played some CT stuff to her which was in a quite romantic setting (Id just met her) she just said something like "Are we in church now?" (it was during Donimo I think). But she likes the Carpenters, so there are lots of opportunities to tease her back. We're together for over 12 years now so, no, I don't think sharing musical taste is a must for a relationship.:argue:
Lucibelle
Jan-7-04, 8:10 PM
When I have a significant other again, I'll tell you whether or not they like Cocteau Twins. ;)
Im afraid my g/f has very conservative tastes in music - Witney Houston, Beverley Carlisle, Black Eyed veg, etc, but its never been an issue. I just keep a few Cds in the car that we kinda agree on and we play them - She has picked Hooverphonic just recently so maybe just maybe.....
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