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simon alexander
Jun-17-03, 1:51 PM
Can anyone provide a link (or links) to the complete lyrics for the above album? The only lyrics I have definitely tracked down so far are for Song To The Siren (via Tim Buckley - for those who haven't yet heard his original version - sell your grandmother if necessary!) As we know, Liz came to hate her vocal, which always made me wonder why she didn't consider re-recording it later (a la Kate Bush with Wuthering Heights - the parallels are interesting). I guess she didn't especially care for the song, either.

I only mentioned Another Day in the thread title because the melancholy and melody of it burns my heart to ashes. (Isn't the deepest music the stuff you just can't bear to play very often, whereas the lesser stuff you play endlessly in order that you eventually grow sick of it and don't have to listen to it anymore?)

If there is any political justice (of course there isn't!), I submit Ivo Watts-Russell should be OBEd, MBEd and thrice knighted for his services to music just on the basis of that eternally breathtaking treasure of a record. Interesting how the Cocteaus seemed to avoid 'strings' - I remember Robin making a remark about how he never liked the TMC sound for that reason.

REPLICESS
Jun-17-03, 1:57 PM
'Another Day' gives me goosebumps and takes my breath away - I'd like the lyrics too :)

Iwan
Jun-17-03, 2:28 PM
Some lyrics to the songs can be found here:

http://www.fedge.net/~desiderata/tmc.html

simon alexander
Jun-17-03, 2:40 PM
Kimberley,

I've just realised I do have some more lyrics after all for a couple of the songs. For Another Day, what I have so far is:

The kettle's on.
The sun has gone.
Another day.
She's at the door, she wants to score.
She really needs to say:
I loved you a long time ago, you know,
Where the wind's own forget-me-nots blow
But I just couldn't let myself go
Not knowing what on earth there was to know.
But I wish that I had 'cause I'm feeling so sad
That I never had one of your children.
Across the room, inside a tomb, a chance has waxed and waned.
The night is young -why are we so hung up in each other's jeans?
I must take her,
I must make her, while the dove domains.
And feel the juice run as she flies
Run my wings under her sighs
As the flames of eternity rise
To lick us with the firstborn lash of dawn.
O really my dear I can't see what we fear
Standing here with ourselves in between us.
And at the door, we can't say more, than just another day.
And without a sound, I turn around, and walk away.

There are such jewels in some of these lines, I think. And I also find it really interesting that Liz should have covered (and in such a definitively feminine way) a love song written so passionately and lyrically out of a man's passion. I don't know what people have made of the Roy Harper original - it is so disarmingly different, it's almost as if you wouldn't hear it as the same song were it not for the words. But Liz's phrasing of 'I must take her/I must make her', the way her voice soars with longing on 'I loved you a long time ago, you know', and the aching loss of 'I'm feeling so sad/That I never had one of your children' really take me to a place beyond words -the paradox of all true poetry. I've never been able to fully grasp 'while the dove domains' though (if, indeed, I have it correct.) Perhaps I'm not meant to, however, or I bring the dove down.

Actually, I'd really like to see (?hear) all three TMC albums remastered and remixed, but especially the first one. After Another Day, the next track comes in far too quickly, though that 'piano in the next room' feel (as I describe it to myself) in 'Holocaust' is sublime and unrepeatable.

simon alexander
Jun-17-03, 2:48 PM
Thnaks Golden Vein - yes, 'chains' for 'jeans' (doh!), and one or two other corrections. What a nice little oasis of a site that is if you like words and you like TMC.

REPLICESS
Jun-17-03, 2:54 PM
Thanks :)

Iwan
Jun-17-03, 3:04 PM
Originally posted by simon alexander
Thnaks Golden Vein
You're welcome, Golden Vein

zed
Jun-17-03, 3:23 PM
........i've never heard it.
but by the lyric,.......it could really hurt.
it just sounds so,......truly intimate and to me, very, personal.

yeah,.....the stuff that really gets in there and twists, i don't listen to all that often.
self preservation i suppose.

Z.

simon alexander
Jun-17-03, 3:24 PM
Hee hee -I'm Golden Vein too (slow grin of realisation). Why is that?

Brett
Jun-17-03, 3:41 PM
It's in my all time top 10 that album. I love it all except Devoto on Holocaust. Cinders is incredible on Kangaroo and A Single Wish. Anyone got the Kangaroo 7"? The b-side is tres cool IMO. A reworking of A single wish

Brien
Jun-17-03, 3:42 PM
what happened to:
she offers me tibetan tea
on a flower tray (?)

REPLICESS
Jun-17-03, 3:45 PM
Originally posted by Brett
I love it all except Devoto on Holocaust.

I ADORE the vocal on that track.

iceblink555
Jun-17-03, 3:57 PM
I love Another Day too! And the original by Roy Harper is a must-hear as well. I actually prefer Harper's original to Buckley's orig. SttS. There's also a really awesome, beautiful duet of Another Day by Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel (live on BBC, I think). It was discussed on the old CT email list a few years ago and circulated on some CD-R boot comps. Of course mine's in storage...aarrrrgh!

Zed, you *must* hear these tracks! Buy It'll End in Tears, like right now!

Simon/Iwan, yeah, they used to call me "golden vein" around here too ;-)

--Alan
np: Massive Attack - Teardrop (Paris, 4/23/03) --w/out Liz, aarrrgh! Anyone know who Massive has been using to "replace" her?

Adam
Jun-17-03, 5:26 PM
golden vein - it's easy, name depends on how many posts do you post, ok?

simon alexander
Jun-17-03, 5:41 PM
Originally posted by Brien
what happened to:
she offers me tibetan tea
on a flower tray (?)

So sorry, Brien - unaccountably, I left out the best bit! (I always wondered if 'she' was a Tibetan Buddhist.)

E-Lo
Jun-17-03, 5:41 PM
Originally posted by Brett
Anyone got the Kangaroo 7"? The b-side is tres cool IMO. A reworking of A single wish

Wow -- had no idea a different version of A Single Wish existed! How is it different than the It'll End in Tears version?

Brett
Jun-17-03, 5:46 PM
Originally posted by REPLICESS


I ADORE the vocal on that track.

Aww Rep. :eek: But you have such great taste. Well, it's nicer for you that way. It just annoys me because the rest of the album is perfect. Devoto sounds half arsed to me. Almost like he's taking the piss. It just doesn't fit the rest of the album which is quite loving but just stops short of precious.

simon alexander
Jun-17-03, 5:54 PM
Interesting to read these other takes on TMC and the original songs - for me, Devoto's 'Holocaust' is quite devastating melancholia, and, whereas I can't bear the Roy Harper original of Another Day, I find Tim Buckley's SttS just so vocally intense and swollen with animal power I tend to pace the floor and groan like a beast whenever I play it. Again, amazing how Liz took such a masculine drama of a song and produced such a stunningly tremulous reading of her own. But, yeah, Kangaroo is something else too. Just how much of that swoopingly sublime voice did he manage to put across live?

Brett
Jun-17-03, 7:06 PM
Originally posted by E-Lo


Wow -- had no idea a different version of A Single Wish existed! How is it different than the It'll End in Tears version?

Not soooooo different to be fair. As I recall (not played for decades) Gordon doesn't sing the lyrics as per A single wish. Instead you hear his looped "heyyyyyyyyyyyy" I just love it. I just love his voice. Now he's not around to necessitate passing the sick bucket, I can say it. I think he's one of the top male vocalists ever.

dynamine
Jun-17-03, 8:51 PM
Originally posted by Brett
Anyone got the Kangaroo 7"?
YEP!!
:music:

Adam
Jun-18-03, 4:01 AM
do you want kangaroo 7"? check this link out: http://www002.upp.so-net.ne.jp/quisquose/trading/trading.htm

Phil Lawton
Jun-18-03, 4:13 AM
If you'd like to hear what was, possibly, Roy Harper's finest album, then buy "HQ". It's one of my favourite albums, full of anti-establishment angst and cynicism.

How strange I should like something cynical.

iceblink555
Jun-18-03, 3:20 PM
Originally posted by Phil Lawton
If you'd like to hear what was, possibly, Roy Harper's finest album, then buy "HQ". It's one of my favourite albums, full of anti-establishment angst and cynicism.

How strange I should like something cynical.

Thanks for the recomm., Phil. I really like Harper's Another Day, but never got around to checking out his other stuff for some reason.

--Alan
np: Radio Tarifa - Sin Palabras