skipper, she's goin down!

[mmmender]

ADMIN NOTE: JULY 19/04 - THREAD PULLED FROM ARCHIVES. ORIGINAL THREAD DATE: SEPT 23/02

go on and admit to the rest of the world which cocteau tracks on which albums you skip.....i do it all the time myself especially with these tracks.....

cherry coloured funk
serpentskirt

these two tracks to me just seem sooooo out of place and i hate both of them. ok, i know hate is a strong word but in cocteau perspective they just seem very decapitated from their respective albums as a whole. i also don't think that the last 3 tracks of milk & kisses should've been there.....know why? cos they're too damn good for the rest of that album!!!

[watchlar]

Originally posted by mmmender
serpentskirt

what the....i love that song ;)

the milk and kisses version of half-gifts ick....clown heaven

W

[mmmender]

i know, i know, i know.....i hear this all the time when i tell people that serpentskirt is one of my least favourite songs......i dunno why but it just bugs the arse off of me....so i have to skip the track.....just ask someotherian, he's been in the cocteaumobile (aka my car) with me many times and it's almost become a big joke with the two of us because he knows my 'skipper' tracks and will say things like "oh look out leesa, track 2 is about to begin, better skip that fucker!" :cool:

[steven]

Skipped tracks:

glass candle grenades

cicely
persephone

the itchy glowbo blow

essence


Violane
half-gifts
rilkean heart
ups
eperdu


I don't skip any tracks on Victorialand, Pink Opaque, and Heaven or Las Vegas! Those three I consider masterpieces!

Steven

[Lucibelle]

Bluebeard, Bluebeard, and Bluebeard

[ScottL]

LOL! Prod the mmmender about it and look what happens...teehee...
ok...though I will say in both cases I think it is only the song writing that is weak perhaps, I find Liz's singing very moving in both of your skippers mmmender, esp. CCF...that's all...
ok..mine(in order)
Tishbite
Persephone
Mussette & Drums (depending on the volume)
Summerblink

Not as a point of disrespect.. I just don't care much to hear it...

[Phil Lawton]

Hmm....

The whole of "Garlands" (easy to skip that sucker...just don't put it in the player)

"Persephone"

Most of "FCC", apart from "Know Who You Are...", "Bluebeard" and "Summerhead" (and "Pur", depending on my mood)

"Half-Gifts" on M&K...Watchy, was it you on the .com boards that first used the evil clown reference when speaking about "Half Gifts"? I've never liked it and reading that made it a little clearer as to why.

"Purple Haze"

[zed]

oh shiti hate to think of dilkeing a CT song enough to just skip it altogether....

but it's just gotta be evangeline.....

great song really...but it just makes my teeth grind...

gotta turn it off ..

have now idea why..

Z

[someotherian]

Originally posted by mmmender
just ask someotherian, he's been in the cocteaumobile ... he knows my 'skipper' tracks
this is true, but the thing about most of the cocteau stuff that leesa plays in her car is that cos the CDs are so badly scratched, they skip by themselves! :)
but at least it's through (very) repeated playing, which can only be a good thing, right?!

as for my own skippage... i really don't tend to skip tracks even if i don't like them as much, like half-gifts from m&k, or quisquose. certainly not in a 'here comes a track i don't like, i can't bear to hear it so i'll skip it' kinda way. maybe it's because i usually manage to find something i like in all the songs. aaahh... :)

[Baddy2shoos]

My skippers would be:
Hitherto (an awful mess)
Strange fruit (scares the shit out of me)
Otterly(have to be in the mood)
Sugar Hiccup (too repetitive)
Fifty Fifty Clown(album version-sounds too dated for my liking)
Most of Garlands except Shallow then halo(or whatever its called)
Pur (yuk yuk yuk)

[RunawayBay]

...I agree with you, I skip:
-SERPENTSKIRT
...
-VIOLAINE
-SEEKERS WHO ARE LOVERS

it seems to me like these songs are the least CTstyle songs.

Lori
--------------
on air now: The Sundays - Love

[watchlar]

Originally posted by steven
Skipped tracks:
the itchy glowbo blow

essence
Violane
half-gifts
rilkean heart
ups
eperdu


OH DEAR...I do believe I'm losing consciousness over this one.... ;)
W

[watchlar]

Originally posted by Baddy2shoes

Pur (yuk yuk yuk)

This is a joke right??? OH MY CHRIST....damn I need to not read this thread...LOL

I have to say one thing about 50-50 clown...I love the song...but you're right BADDY2SHOES about the dated sound...the synth does sound dated...in fact I was listening to the song in my car one day and before the vocals started...my friend turned to me and asked...is this a BOY GEORGE song?
:eek:

W

[Lucibelle]

my friend turned to me and asked...is this a BOY GEORGE song?



Ooooh! Ouch! Oh, that hurts! Gotta go lie down, now.

[dynamine]

multifoiled/or multiphooey=hoh
ups=m&k





on air now:chameleons= swamp thing

[mmmender]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
"Summerhead"phil, i've always questioned your sanity before this post, but you've just given me proof of your lack thereof! i fucking LOVE that song! are you off yer rocker????

[watchlar]

Originally posted by mmmender
phil, i've always questioned your sanity before this post, but you've just given me proof of your lack thereof! i fucking LOVE that song! are you off yer rocker????

Mendy Pooh...I think Phil was saying that he skips most of FCC except for those songs...correct me if I'm wrong Phil...please

W

[mmmender]

yep, you're right watchy, thanks for noticing my fuck-up........bitch!! LOL

ok phil, yer off the hook......get down now i need that hook for someone else!

[ScottL]

Originally posted by watchlar


OH DEAR...I do believe I'm losing consciousness over this one.... ;)
W

LOL! Heh you crack me up. It never ceases to amaze me how VASTLY DIFFERENT CT Fans tastes are...I mean, I think I've found 1 person who seems to vibe w/me on the whole...meaning the the extremes match...only in the middle grey area do we differ.
I love the vocals on 50-50 clown...same reason I like CCF. I am sometime like someotherian in that I won't skip any, it is only volume which makes me hurry to skip anything...I've even sat and listened to Summerblink many times...some songs have grown on me this way(Quisquose, Blood Bitch...)...Summerblink wasn't one of em.

Summerhead is truly killer in my book, but so much louder than the songs in proximity to it...sometimes it comes on pretty damn loud here....

[watchlar]

Originally posted by ScottL

It never ceases to amaze me how VASTLY DIFFERENT CT Fans tastes are

So True Scott...so true...

[Lucibelle]

I'm sorry, Scott. You've said 'CCF' twice now. Do you mean 'FCC', or am I having a major album title brain fart?

:confused:

[mmmender]

ccf=cherry coloured funk (bleeeeeeeeeeech!!) LOL

[ScottL]

I mean't Cherry Coloured Funk...a comment I made to mender sorta spawned this thread as I knew it was one of her skippers...

[steven]

I tend to agree with Phil about 'garlands.' I RARELY play that album or peppermint pig or lullibies. To me, that was "proto-era" cocteau twins. If I want to listen to that type of work, I'll put on early Siouxise or Pornography era cure. I always personally consider 'Head over Heals' to be the cocteaus real first album.

s.

[mmmender]

ok....here's the deal with cherry coloured crap.......i just hate the way she sings it......she sounds so drab and bored outta her skull.......and the way the music begins just annoys me.....it's a real slow-mover for me.....makes me wanna put on victorialand and go to bed!

[Lucibelle]

Thank you for clearing my fart-filled air!:rolleyes: I was only thinking albums, not songs. I happen to like CCF. Bluebeard is really the only song I can think of that I'll actually skip. I like the lyrics, though. Sometimes I'll listen to it, but mostly I'll skip it. Hey, I skip a lot of my own music, for that matter!:D I'll listen to the archives of my stuff every now and then and there's some songs that I'll say to myself, "Cheese and rice! What the hell was I (on) THINKING when I wrote that?!?" I read once that the Cocteaus felt that way about 'Song to the Siren' (Sludge to the Siren). I don't quite get what they don't like, but I understand where they're coming from. I think all musicians go through that.

[REPLICESS]

It really is amazing how we all differ isn't it ?

'Garlands' is still my fav CT album !

If I skip tracks, it's ones from the last 2 albums.

[Phil Lawton]

I must take issue with 'Er Ladyship over Cherry Coloured Funk.

See, Lees, you have to be a bloke to grasp the finer nuances of the vocal style. "Cherry" is Liz the morning after, whispering bitter-sweet nothings to me.

[zed]

Phil...

"bittersweet"

oh dear.....temporary ..lack of confidence?

:( Z

[Phil Lawton]

Z

Working on the premise that I'm thirteen pints handsome and best engaged in carnal activities by the light of a cigarette, I've no doubt that Liz would chew her own arm off when she clocked the Lawton mug when she woke up.

[zed]

LOLOL!!!


you da monster!!


:D :D


Z!

[randomrob]

ppl used to tell me 'orange-appled' sounded like Abba- 'oh , this is that band that sounds like Abba'............ hmm

'road, river and rail' definitely

nearly all of 'garlands' cept 'shallow than halo'

'in our angelhood'

(whispering: 'aikea-guinea' covering face- I KNOW I KNOW how could I possibly not like this one? I dunno- it just always seemed so sickly-sweet and repetitive)

'donimo'

that one off of 'lonely is an eyesore' ummmmm 'crushed'?- liz doing that barking/bow-wow thing errrrrr - I'll pass

[spanglemaker]

I know this is bad but I had thing for a whole summer where I would skip all the instrumentals...WHAT WAS I THINKING?

[Lucibelle]

There were instrumentals?:eek:;)

[Phil Lawton]

All two of them?

Jesus.....

[seeingtree]

Hmmmm...

well Heaven or Las Vegas was the beginning of the end for me. I reckon it to be my most played album of all time (incl the wonderful CCF).

But if I had to choose then Garlands to Moon and the Melodies for me please. All of it and all the inbetweens..love it. The next two I still like a lot but the last two albums I am not so keen on really and live for some reason I liked them as a trio or even the duo around 83.

[randomrob]

I always felt the moon and the melodies was the (unofficial) sequel to harold budd/brian eno's 'the pearl' - just speculation, but the coda to the last track always knocks me on my ass 'r'R

[ScottL]

Phil: Tut tut my friend...I know of 3...are you leaving out 'My Hue and Cry' from BBC Sesssions?
Aside from
Rococo (Aikea-Guinie EP)
Ribbed and Veined (Tiny Dynamine EP)

oh and mmmender, thanks...I think you gave the explanation I was hoping for...maybe I need to check myself for male homormone overload...because I think I'm with Phil on this one...feels like that dream where you walk out on stage and notice you have no pants on...;)

[mmmender]

scott....you and phil just need to have your hearing checked i'm afraid. i don't think it's got anything to do with male hormones - cos i've got bigger balls than the both of you! :) ccf is simply rotten (did i just say that?)

*going into spinal tap mode*

"can you check me on this? am i losing my fuckin mind?"

[randomrob]

I think CCF woulda worked w/a slow fade-in and a MUCH harder bridge section- as it stands its like valium and jello.... Jung mighta dug it?!

[Lucibelle]

...feels like that dream where you walk out on stage and notice you have no pants on...

I was at that show, Scott! That was no dream! :eek:

[rilkean]

Ok, Ok, O...k!!
Let me think...mmmmmmm


in order of appearance:
All garlands except WAX AND WANE...yeak!
Glass Candle Granades
mussettes and drumms (depends on the mood)
Cicely
Pepper tree
Itchy Globow globe

:rolleyes:

[Marios]

Almost all the songs from Garlands and Head over Heels.

[superblast]

I find From the Flagstones the most unpleasant of all CT songs. Other tracks I’ve been known to skip: Road River and Rail, Half-Gifts and most of Garlands.

[REPLICESS]

'Garlands' is INCREDIBLE !!!!!!


*Freaks* :p


;)

[mborum]

Talk about coming out of the closet...

Let's see, what would I dare skip?

Glass Candle Grenades
The Tinderbox (of a heart)
Otterley
Essence
Half-Gifts (album version)
Eperdu
Pepper-tree (sometimes)

Michael

[theregoesmysoul]

lol, I disagree for Persephone : I love that song, the voice sounds strange and I like it a lot !

[seeingtree]

Originally posted by superblast
I find From the Flagstones the most unpleasant of all CT songs. Other tracks I’ve been known to skip: Road River and Rail, Half-Gifts and most of Garlands.

The joys of liking bands. We all have utterly different favourite songs.
Flagstones, especially the live version where she goes down, unstead of up as it were, is one of my favourite moments.
And R,r,r is my second fav cocteau's song.

The joys of diveristy :)

[Lucibelle]

No way, man! If your favorites aren't the same as my favorites, than you SUCK!!!! :eek: :D ;)

[mmmender]

this thread is almost a year old but still very relevant. i thought i'd bump it up to the surface for newbies.

[andylama]

Although my fervor declines steadily after HOLV, there's only one thing I will vehemently NOT listen to: the entirety of "Twinlights". All that ultra-personal psychobabble makes me cringe, real hard.

In fact, Twinlights is the only commercial CT release I don't own.

"No sir...I don't like it!" --Mr. Horse from the Ren & Stimpy cartoons

[Angel]

Without a doubt, I always skip "From the Flagstones"

[mborum]

I think I'll revise my list (above) and take off "The Tinderbox (of a heart)." Since I think I "figured out" the lyrics after listening to it on the digital remaster, I really like it. In fact, Head Over Heels is my favorite remaster so far. I just got the remaster for Heaven or Las Vegas and, while it's still gorgeous as ever, the difference is not so significant, IMO, as with Head Over Heels.

Michael

[dannen]

Originally posted by mmmender
this thread is almost a year old but still very relevant. i thought i'd bump it up to the surface for newbies.

a newbies 2 cents....
you people skip songs? damn, guess i'm a freak then. i've yet to find a consistant skipper. granted there is a range but a ct worst is still better than 98% of most other stuff out there.

on occassion, i admit i'll skip "TO" a song but it's never because i'm skipping "AWAY" from one.

think of it as a musical 'nooner': no time now for the frillies love, let's get to the meat of it [so to speak].

[dannen]

Originally posted by Angel
Without a doubt, I always skip "From the Flagstones"

Angel, i'm crushed. wun of my favs.

[dprid]

Can't believe I didn't comment on this before. Anyway...

I don't think I skip any tracks as it would just feel too wierd not to listen to the album as a whole. Each album is a body of work presumably arranged and intended to be listened to in the sequence they're arranged, so that's what I d. I don't of course listen to Victorialand very offten, or The Moon & The Melodies as I personally find them a bit blah, but other wise I listen as nature (or the Gods & Godess) intended.

[zed]

...i almost always skip cherry coloured funk,..out of deferance to.... ;)

but i ALWAYS skip evangaline..........phatoooie!

Z.

[fredofla]

Originally posted by Lucibelle
Bluebeard, Bluebeard, and Bluebeard



ditto, ditto and ditto.

[fredofla]

Originally posted by andylama
Although my fervor declines steadily after HOLV, there's only one thing I will vehemently NOT listen to: the entirety of "Twinlights". All that ultra-personal psychobabble makes me cringe, real hard.

In fact, Twinlights is the only commercial CT release I don't own.

"No sir...I don't like it!" --Mr. Horse from the Ren & Stimpy cartoons


yup....i have some "issues" with Twinlights, too. (so d'ya think maybe, since they were both released at the same time, that the fans usually will fall into either the Twinlights camp or the Otherness camp? that'd be my guess.....)


:1pimp:


np: Tujiko Noriko "From Tokyo To Naiagara"

[fredofla]

Originally posted by zed
but i ALWAYS skip evangaline..........phatoooie!

Z.


yeah, Evangaline rather GAGS me tooie.

:tongue:

[Quisquose]

Disclaimer: I don't really hate or even dislike any of these songs, but I just tend to skip them in favor of the other goodies...

blood bitch (feh...)
multifoiled (I don't care for the bop-bop-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-bas)
my love paramour (I find it repetitive)
the thinner the air (yawn)
otterley (like someone else said, I have to be in the right mood)
for phoebe still a baby (I don't really dislike it, but I'm always impatient to get to itchy glowbo blow ):blush:
iceblink luck and heaven or las vegas (very rarely do I feel like listening to those, and I can't put my finger exactly on why)
summerhead (see above)

Moving on to the EPs & such...

laugh lines (it makes me grit my teeth, but sometimes I'm in the mood to grit my teeth, so it's all good):D
alas dies laughing and ark lark
all of echoes in a shallow bay (but I love tiny dynamine, go figure!)
kookaburra
dials
golden-vein (too sweet)
round, an elan, and circling girl

[kookaburra]

Originally posted by Quisquose

Moving on to the EPs & such...

laugh lines (it makes me grit my teeth, but sometimes I'm in the mood to grit my teeth, so it's all good):D
alas dies laughing and ark lark
all of echoes in a shallow bay (but I love tiny dynamine, go figure!)
kookaburra
dials
golden-vein (too sweet)
round, an elan, and circling girl

:rolleyes:

[bLeafminer]

Quite an entertaining thread, I hadn't seen it before.

I am fascinated how we fans are capable of singling out tracks that to others are doubtless classics. I'd like to put a little more ear into this question but the opportunity to publicly vilify "Summer-blink" is one I must take. What an absolutely embarrassing track! It throws the whole 'discernible' era of liz's vocals into question for me. I listen to it and just shake my head...

and I think I sense some widespread agreement on the M&K version of 'Half-gifts'.

but you've got anything horrid to say about Cherry-Colored Funk(or Felicity Kendall), you can just about bloomin' well say it to me first!! ;o)

[andylama]

Originally posted by FREDofLA
yup....i have some "issues" with Twinlights, too. (so d'ya think maybe, since they were both released at the same time, that the fans usually will fall into either the Twinlights camp or the Otherness camp? that'd be my guess.....)


Hi Fred.

I doubt it, since Otherness isn't at all representative of any phase of CT's body of work, per se.

I more suspect that CT fans are divided into camps based on the intelligibility of the vocals.

I've actually seen someone on these boards post a comment to the effect of "does anyone actually care about anything that came before FCC?". I just about fainted--me of course being of the "I didn't love anything after FCC" camp.

[zed]

...vocals or not, understood or not,........ with me, it's the whole song,......sound, structure, melody. ........99.9 percent of 'em are just great. it's just a few that tend to rub my ears the wrong way. it's just my taste.i can't stand, (most of the time) when moma was moth...lately i'm more receptive ....but a week ago i loathed it.

alot of folks 'round these parts seem to be bored to tears with carolyns fingers..i love it.......with me there seems to be four or five songs that just don't fade for me,.and then.... everything else. then one or two songs i can't quite get over,...for whatever reason. i'm content with it this way.

Z.

[fredofla]

Originally posted by andylama

--me of course being of the "I didn't love anything after FCC" camp.


....hi to you, Andy.

i tend to think of 4CC as a something of a failed experiment within the larger CT catalog with Twinlights as a kind of culmination of this experiment with all things "literal."

imo, the band returned to fine form with Otherness and M&K. incidentally, it would seem that the song Violaine seems to have some of the most indecipherable lyrics ever.....i still have no idea what demi-language the Violaine lyrics have may be descended from. it has (in large quantities) everything i love about the CT style......especially the amazing density of the total sound via extreme multi-track layering.

[andylama]

Originally posted by FREDofLA
....hi to you, Andy.

i tend to think of 4CC as a something of a failed experiment within the larger CT catalog with Twinlights as a kind of culmination of this experiment with all things "literal."

imo, the band returned to fine form with Otherness and M&K. incidentally, it would seem that the song Violaine seems to have some of the most indecipherable lyrics ever.....i still have no idea what demi-language the Violaine lyrics have may be descended from. it has (in large quantities) everything i love about the CT style......especially the amazing density of the total sound via extreme multi-track layering.

Well yeah, there's that ;)

Don't get me wrong, I don't strongly DISlike any of the latter-day stuff, but for me, as the vocals (for the most part) became more and more intelligible (like shafts of light through the trees) the magic and mystery faded by and by. With understanding comes mundaneness.

It's OK though...for me, the 'golden ages' are roughly 1984 through 1990, and ALL that stuff still makes me sparkle inside.

[mmmender]

*bringing this thread back to life*

[Tinspur]

go on and admit to the rest of the world which cocteau tracks on which albums you skip.....i do it all the time myself especially with these tracks.....

- cherry coloured funk

Et tu Mmme!!!! You wound me deeply, I love CCF!!!! Admittedly though, it does seem out of place on that album.

http://www.medievaltimes.com/2003imagevault/knights/images/0044.jpg

[iceblink555]

I love CCF too, Spur! :fight:

--Alan

[Rad]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
I must take issue with 'Er Ladyship over Cherry Coloured Funk.

See, Lees, you have to be a bloke to grasp the finer nuances of the vocal style. "Cherry" is Liz the morning after, whispering bitter-sweet nothings to me.

Holy fuck you hit the nail on the head!

[Jeek]

I have to admit that I'm no big fan of Rilkean Heart or Evangeline. And if I owned Snow, I'd constantly skip Winterwonderland. It's a really boring cover. Frosty on the other hand is brilliant.

[Jeek]

I just took a moment to scan the whole thread and I am thoroughly distraught and dismayed that someone hates Crushed...

[Tinspur]

Blimey, you people are a wet blanket, I love CT's cover of Winter Wonderland, it resonates a wistful, Rockwellian ambience that reminds me of the innocence I once knew.

I haven't heard Frosty the Snowman in quite some time, does anyone have an mp3 I can download?

[petroldarling]

check the Dials sub-forum, for lots of cocteau media, i know Winter Wonderland is in one of mmms mmmender's posts.

[petroldarling]

or maybe it's winter wonderland thats in there, crap. i cant remember. i am awesome.

[Pale Clouded]

Yeah it's winter wonderland.

[iceblink555]

Originally posted by gkjsooley
I have to admit that I'm no big fan of Rilkean Heart or Evangeline. And if I owned Snow, I'd constantly skip Winterwonderland. It's a really boring cover. Frosty on the other hand is brilliant.

I rarely play my Snow CD at all. Even around Xmas it's tough to convince myself to put it on.

Originally posted by gkjsooley
I just took a moment to scan the whole thread and I am thoroughly distraught and dismayed that someone hates Crushed...

That's beyond my comprehension too, gkj. Crushed is one of my faves.

Originally posted by Tinspur
I haven't heard Frosty the Snowman in quite some time, does anyone have an mp3 I can download?

Spur, you might try putting up a request in the Dials forum. Soulseek (www.slsknet.org) is another good place to find CT rarities. Or, if you want some packaging to go with it, you can usually find the CD at www.ebay.com .

--Alan

[mmmender]

ok....i tired.....i really tried to listen to the ENTIRE album today but as soon as i heard those horrid bass notes at the beginning of serpentskirt.....and found myself diving for the >> button.....then i get to the next track, play it for a 45 seconds and.....>>.......i repeated this action with each subsequent track until i reached ups - surprise! i listened to the rest of the album and then put it away in it's lovely plastic sleeve, where it'll stay for at least another several months, for good reason.

[Baddy2shoos]

ups is an amazing track!!

[mmmender]

Originally posted by Baddy2shoes
ups is an amazing track!!

damn straight! it's the BEST track on m&k IMHO.

[Baddy2shoos]

yeah it pretty much blows the rest of it out of the water, but i do like treasure hiding, tishbite and calfskin smack...infact i do actually quite like m + k but ups is the best track :)

*hides*

[mmmender]

Originally posted by Baddy2shoes
yeah it pretty much blows the rest of it out of the water, but i do like treasure hiding, tishbite and calfskin smack...infact i do actually quite like m + k but ups is the best track :)

*hides*

you can hide behind me if you like, i'm already in everyone's bad books for disliking serpentskirt!

:)

[Baddy2shoos]

you can dislike whatever the hell you like!!!!!!!!

;)

[Baddy2shoos]

but it is not ok to like sean paul :)

[mmmender]

exactly. but i think that fortunately or unfortunately cocteau fans seem to have a very personal connection/affinity for two songs in particular that i quite dislike.......cherry coloured funk and serpentskirt......i can't tell you how many times i've been told that i'm insane for not liking those tracks....but hey, i'm just being honest.

[Baddy2shoos]

i do love cherry coloured funk - currently my msn name, but more because its my fave CT title...there are lots of songs that i cant figure out why ppl love or hate but at the end of the day it doesnt really matter :) CT FOOKIN RULE! PERIOD!

[E-Lo]

I adore the slow, smokey grind of Cherry Coloured Funk. I think it makes a beautiful opener for HOLV.

As far as songs to skip, I usually skip Milk & Kisses entirely. I think its their weakest album melodically and definitely the most overblown production-wise.

[mmmender]

Originally posted by E-Lo
I usually skip Milk & Kisses entirely. I think its their weakest album melodically and definitely the most overblown production-wise.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Baddy2shoos]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


y dont more ppl slate VL???

[Jeek]

Blimey, you people are a wet blanket, I love CT's cover of Winter Wonderland, it resonates a wistful, Rockwellian ambience that reminds me of the innocence I once knew.

Tinspur,

That pretty much sums up the same way I feel about Frosty.

[TheGhost]

People skip tracks? Jeez.

That said, there have been times when I've passed right over Multi-Foiled, Sugar Hiccup, Blood Bitch, and a few off FCC and M&K.

But when it comes to Victorialand, if I had to listen to a single album for a week straight, that would be it.

[mmmender]

yeah but don't you ever bore of victorialand??

that being said, i can never bore of HOLV!

:D

[Rad]

I used to hate VL as well. But now it's one of the ones I listen to the most now. And yes M. I still can't see what you don't like about Cherry Coloured Funk. But I'll leave you alone about that. I tend to interrogate people too much as to why they don't like something LOL.

[mmmender]

i could show you the scars i have from the constant 'cocteau-fan-beatings' if you're interested?

[Rad]

Nein Danke. It is something I'd hardly take pleasure in seeing. I wonder who they were *clenches fists*

[Tinspur]

Well, it would depend on where the scars arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..........., well, anyhow, what makes the CT portfolio so special is the striking diversity therein which attracts a multitude of colorful people to this forum. I have introduced their music to many a friend and acquaintance alike, and the vast majority found at least one song that struck their fancy. Whether it was the raw power of Garlands, or the dreamy landscapes of Victorialand, or the mature sound of FCC and MAK, there is something for everyone in these magnificent opuses.

[TheGhost]

Originally posted by mmmender
yeah but don't you ever bore of victorialand??

that being said, i can never bore of HOLV!

:D


I don't think I could ever get bored with V'land. "Lazy Calm" was the first CT track I ever heard -- was borrowing the CD from a friend at work -- and their music clicked with me right away.

I have loving, caring, fulfilling relationships with all the albums, but some of the children are more favored than others! I can listen to Moon and the Melodies straight through several consecutive times also, and have frequently done so while writing at night. (That's a great CD for creativity.)

Oh, they all have their moments, and even my least favorite songs are sometimes my favorites. I've owned Treasure since 97 and only in the past four months have I really gotten Pandora.

[Rad]

The only problem I have with Lazy Calm is that it takes a million years for the damn song to start!

[Pale Clouded]

Originally posted by Tinspur
well, anyhow, what makes the CT portfolio so special is the striking diversity therein


Yes! I can't think of any other band that has such a diverse collection of work. It's one of the things that makes CT's music so hard to define. It was always changing. Always something to fit whatever mood I'm in.

I love it!

Oh and I love Victorialand! Never get tired of it! However, I have a confession to make. The first CT album I ever heard was Treasure. The first CT album I ever owned was Pink Opaque, so when I first heard Victorialand I remember thinking, what the fuck is this crap....LOL! How times have changed. It actually took a couple years to get to number one on my list, mostly because I didn't listen to it that much.

[Rad]

How to Bring a Blush to the Snow is my personal fave of VL at the moment. But I think one of the best songs is The Thinnner the Air.

[Pale Clouded]

Feet-like fins!

[Rad]

Nope sorry. ...Blush to the Snow is something I can't seem to stop playing on either the piano or guitar :guitar: . The chords and melody are just.... well... I think I may have to make a word up lol

[Pale Clouded]

Originally posted by Radagast
Nope sorry. ...Blush to the Snow is something I can't seem to stop playing on either the piano or guitar :guitar: . The chords and melody are just.... well... I think I may have to make a word up lol

No, Feet-like fins for ME! :tongue:

[TheGhost]

Originally posted by Radagast
How to Bring a Blush to the Snow is my personal fave of VL at the moment. But I think one of the best songs is The Thinnner the Air.

Thinner the Air is pretty grand. Too bad Massive Attack got their hands on it for a re-mix. Yeah, their version is kind of cool, but the austere original is Something Entirely Different.

And Lazy Calm has the perfect length! I love the opening

Ok, too many posts for one night. Newbie to the board -- but definitely not to CT -- who has lurked for a while, and is now going to bed.

Well, not yet. I'll listen to V'land first.

[Pale Clouded]

Originally posted by TheGhost


And Lazy Calm has the perfect length! I love the opening




Slow....slow...slow...then..BAM! Like building up to an orgasm!

[Rad]

Originally posted by TheGhost

Ok, too many posts for one night. Newbie to the board -- but definitely not to CT -- who has lurked for a while, and is now going to bed.



That's ok. When I first joined I never knew when to shut up roflmao. It was also due to the fact that before then I had only been into CT for 2 months and I didn't know what hit me! I think I went a bit insane for a while roflmao roflmao.

[Rad]

Pale...
if only orgasms were as long as the build up! haha

[TheGhost]

Originally posted by Pale Clouded
Slow....slow...slow...then..BAM! Like building up to an orgasm!


Kind of. Now where did I put those damn cigarettes?!?!

Kidding. I don't smoke.

[Rad]

Originally posted by TheGhost
I don't smoke.

Then in my books you're not only smart but sane. Us non smoking seem to be a rare specimen.

[Tinspur]

But no! Alas, it must be Oomingmak! Actually, I prefer the instrumental version, for some reason, the lyrics crowd the song. Honorable mention goes to Throughout the Dark Months of April and May , it reminds me of Sir Gawain riding across the heaths and glenn's of England on his way to meet the Green Knight (read the book/poem!!!!!!).

[E-Lo]

Victorialand is genius. It is simply not of this realm. Can't remember how many times I have drifted asleep to it. I find the chord changes are devastatingly gorgeous, particularly on the 2nd half of the album . . . and love the slow, hazy build-up of Lazy Calm

[iceblink555]

Welcome, Ghost!

Originally posted by TheGhost
Thinner the Air is pretty grand. Too bad Massive Attack got their hands on it for a re-mix. Yeah, their version is kind of cool, but the austere original is Something Entirely Different.

Actually, it's a bootleg mash-up, done by an anonymous fan, using the bass line from Massive's Protection. I quite like it myself, but then I'm a real junky for these things, as you'll see if you hang around here for awhile. ;-)

Ok, too many posts for one night. Newbie to the board -- but definitely not to CT -- who has lurked for a while, and is now going to bed.


Pleasant dreams, Ghost. :sleep: When you wake up, feel free to stumble on over to the For Phoebe Still a Baby forum and introduce yourself.

--Alan

[Jeek]

ADMIN NOTE: THREAD MERGE

Inspired by mmmender's revelation that there are 5 CT tracks that she doesn't like, what CT tracks make you want to reach for the skip/ffwd button on your stereo?

For me it's:

Rilkean Heart
Evangeline

I may think of more later...

[willy]

CT? Do you mean Cyril Thomson? I would have to say:

My Buddy and Me
Flower Girl (You Make My Dreams Come True)
Summertime Strollin'
She Wore Denim
Yours For Keeps (Bobby's Song)

[Ghosty]

Milk&Kisses: from Half-Gifts through to Seekers
Blue Bell Knoll: track 4-10 (can't be bothered with titles)

I play these songs every now and then but usually when I put those albums on it's just the first three tracks on repeat.

sacrilege, innit.