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salbiez
Apr-29-04, 3:25 PM
Anybody else out there think A R Kane's Lollita is the best non-CT Guthrie production? What else has he produced (apart from Felt's Primitive Painters ...)?

mmmender
Apr-29-04, 3:35 PM
Originally posted by salbiez
What else has he produced (apart from Felt's Primitive Painters ...)?

you can get loads of answers from either or all of the following links:

http://bellaunion.com/robin/

http://www.cocteautwins.org/collab2.html

or just do a search on this forum

salbiez
Apr-29-04, 3:40 PM
Cheers Leesa

Baba O'Reilly
Apr-30-04, 4:32 AM
Originally posted by salbiez
Anybody else out there think A R Kane's Lollita is the best non-CT Guthrie production?

When was this released? It seems strangely absent from my AR Kane collection.

salbiez
Apr-30-04, 6:28 AM
I think 1987 - 12" single with 2 other wonderful tracks which I've forgotten the name of - on 4AD - I have it at home so could look up details if you want.

There is a cover shot on the bellaunion.com/robin link that leesa directed me to. I also have the 12" of Primitive Painters by Felt (and, incidentally, a copy of Lowlife's Diminuendo that I had completely forgotten about until last night while trawling through my vinyl!)

Also, I think I need to reword what I said at the beginning of the thread - Lollita is the best track I've heard, but from the evidence I need to do a hell of a lot more listening! However, if anyone out there hasn't heard Lollita - it really is a must ... there is a really sublime moment where it mutates into what I can only describe as a glacial slab of almost white noise. I did a search on the forum on leesa's suggestion yesterday but couldn't find a previous mention of the track?

Baba O'Reilly
Apr-30-04, 8:45 AM
Originally posted by salbiez
I think 1987 - 12" single with 2 other wonderful tracks which I've forgotten the name of - on 4AD - I have it at home so could look up details if you want.


Sal - I definitely don't have this. Do you know if it's available on CD?

salbiez
Apr-30-04, 9:01 AM
Here's some more details:

A.R. Kane: Lollita
12" 1987 UK (4AD Records; BAD 704)
Lollita
Sado-masochism Is A Must
Butterfly Collector

To be honest I've no idea about a CD release, but just did a quick Google check and couldn't find any info on this ...

Baba O'Reilly
Apr-30-04, 9:10 AM
Ta for looking Sal.

There's an AR Kane 'Remixes' CD so I'll see if it crops up on that.

Jeek
Apr-30-04, 9:34 AM
No, I don't think it's available on CD, though it's one of a number of deleted 4AD EPs that folks on the 4AD forum have been bugging jo (mojo on the CT forum) to either get re-released as a CDEP, or included on a comp of long out of print 4AD EPs.

postlibyan
Apr-30-04, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by salbiez
Butterfly Collector

this song freaking rules! thanks -- i hadn't pulled this record out fo the collection in a while. i'll drag it down tonight.....

coincidentally, two of A.R. Kane's albums were just rereleased by One Little Indian. you can read a review on PitchforkMedia (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/a/ar-kane/69-i.shtml).

here is a tantalizing snippet: " Though hugely influenced by the Cocteau Twins' mid-80s peak, 69 drew equally from dub's disregard for sonic structure, disappearing into distant echoes that strikingly predict the succulent Seefeel."

good mention Salbiez!

PJK

salbiez
Apr-30-04, 3:52 PM
Also, I just remembered - the AR Kane & Colourbox track on the B-side of Pump Up the Volume is also v. cool (trying to find it ...) - just listened to the Lollita ep again, and your right postlibyan - Butterfly Collector is awesome.