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[mmmender]

out of all your cocteau twins albums which one would you say you play most often?

personally, i think i'm on my 5th edition of HOLV. i play it so much that i kill the disc and buy a new one. i'm not too keen on burning cds, i love having the original disc and the artwork to look at. besides, the band makes more money that way.

[lo-fi]

HOLV for me too. Its the most played cd i own.

[dprid]

Four Calendar Cafe for me simply because it's got Pur on it. Otherwise it's probably a tie between HOLV and Milk & Kisses

[mmmender]

y'know david....i've always been meaning to ask you what the deal is with your obsession with pur. i mean, it's a great track, don't get me wrong....but i would never pick it as one of my top 10 tracks. i dunno what it is but i think it's the beginning that bothers me slightly.....although once the song gets going it's delicious!

[dprid]

Dunno - we all have particular things that strike us as being right or perfect, and for me Pur just hits all the buttons. I'm not sure I could even explain exactly what it is about it that get's me, but it still gives me tingles after all these years. I know I like the way it crescendos - I like Treasure Hiding for precisely the same reason. I also like the 'bell' sounds that come in as a counterpoint. I actually don't like to over-analyse why I like things just in case I break the mystique :)

[dprid]

I just wanted to add that I feel pretty much the same about all the art I like. I like it because I like it, not because I've analysed the meaning, the mood the artist was in or what he had for dinner. I'd even say I feel the same about literature a lot of the time as well, and I definitely regard CT music as art, probably more so than any other recording artist. When I listen with my eyes closed I can see shapes and colours, not consciously so I could describe them, but way back in my brain as I let the sound wash over me. Interestingly I don't think the patterns are ever the same from one listen to the next. Or maybe I've been drinking too much tea :D

[fredofla]

i go through phases.

this year i've happily rediscovered 4CC and it's gotten far more play than the others.

the all-time champ, though, in terms of total plays is probably HOLV.

oh, and please count me as a huge Pur fan too.

[PhillipT]

For a very long time it was FCC but over the last couple of years it has been BBK.

-Phillip - Another fan of Pur.

[Baba O'Reilly]

Garlands - particularly the first four tracks.

[jottke]

lately, it's got to be Head Over Heels.

though it times it could have been any other, except Garlands, which, as with tofu and fried mushrooms, i always give a second (or third or fourth...) chance and never come around.

also, i made these two mixes for my sister, and have been listening to them more than a single album lately:

One
When Mama Was Moth
Five Ten Fiftyfold
In the Gold Dust Rush
Musette and Drums
From The Flagstones
Because Of Whirl-Jack
Song to the Siren
Millimillenary
The Spangle Maker
Lorelei
Pandora
Donimo
Aikea-Guinea
Pink Orange Red
Pale Clouded White
Lazy Calm
Those Eyes, That Mouth
Orange Appled

Two
Carolyn's Fingers
Cico Buff
A Kissed Out Red Floatboat
Ella Megalast Burls Forever
The High Monkey-Monk
Fifty-Fifty Clown
Iceblink Luck
Heaven Or Las Vegas
Mizake The Mizan
Evangeline
Bluebeard
Summerhead
Summer-Blink
Violaine
Serpentskirt
Ups
Tranquil Eye
Round
Circling Girl
Seekers Who Are Lovers
Touch Upon Touch

[etc etc]

I think what gets me in PUR is the lead guitar part that ends with that glorious whammy bar dip which ushers in the wonderful outro......that whammy dip got me misty eyed the first few times I heard it...FCC is the one I have played most over the years...the ep's/singles from M&K would be 2nd and then HOLV and BBK are tied for third

[postlibyan]

i listen to _Victorialand_ at least once a week. it is the perfect meditational album...

i also like to put it on when i am cleaning...

i listen to HOLV a lot in my car. it's a good driving album.

PJK

[frarn]

BBK - as if you couldn't tell!

[Thackeray]

Four Calendar Cafe

sniff sniff I ain't ever heard Milk and Kisses

[mmmender]

Four Calendar Cafe

sniff sniff I ain't ever heard Milk and Kisses
i dunno thack, i think that's officially grounds for banning you from the forums. i'll have to check my admin manual and get back to you.

[Thackeray]

Gosh golly gumballs!

But I love CT music...I really really really DO!!!

I am a fan. I AM ONE. I really Really REALLY AM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mmmender]

OMG THIS MEANS YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD "UPS"

i think i'm gonna faint!

[fornasetti]

i dunno thack, i think that's officially grounds for banning you from the forums. i'll have to check my admin manual and get back to you.

Liking 4CC is reason to ban people ? Yesss ! I told you it was weak.

(Crouches and hides)

[mmmender]

Liking 4CC is reason to ban people ? Yesss ! I told you it was weak.

(Crouches and hides)
no, not ever hearing m&k is grounds for banning!

[Baddy2shoos]

I havent listened to ct in a month, does that mean It's time for my spanking?

[andylama]

rough crowd! :D

[fornasetti]

I think I play Tishbites most often. Ok, its not an album but its what I do.
Otherwise, I like to play the EPs and BBK comes out of its shell more than the other albums.

[mmmender]

"tishbites" hmm, never heard of it.

[fornasetti]

I think you can get one on ebay from time to time.

[watchlar]

y'know david....i've always been meaning to ask you what the deal is with your obsession with pur. i mean, it's a great track, don't get me wrong....but i would never pick it as one of my top 10 tracks. i dunno what it is but i think it's the beginning that bothers me slightly.....although once the song gets going it's delicious!PUR IS PURRRRRRRRRRRFECT

[watchlar]

Four Calendar Cafe

sniff sniff I ain't ever heard Milk and Kisses :explode: omg i'm gonna have a coronary

you're missing out on UPS

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HANA

[fornasetti]

You know when I was a total Zep freak I ranked all their songs 1 to whatever it was. I've never done that for CTs. Is it because my obsession is somehow less ? Or is it that I'm nearly 25 years older now and I'm growing out of NickHornbyism (the urge to make lists of things in descending order of greatness) ?

[mmmender]

:explode: omg i'm gonna have a coronary

you're missing out on UPS

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HANA
ok so you missed my post where i said the same thing?

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRR!

btw, there's nothing like the stupid expressions that you'll see on my face and steve's once this track comes on at cocteaufest. we just kinda look at each other like freaks and start our interpretive cocteau dancing. it's sad, yet nice in a weird way.

[mmmender]

I think you can get one on ebay from time to time.
i'll have to keep an eye out.

thanks for the tip.

[ScottL]

Victorialand for me, on the average...for one thing, like the meditation thing PJK mentioned, I tend to be able to run Victorialand for several repetitions when I do put it in..it also was my first, so on cumulative listens, it wins easy....but really my top 4 are pretty close over the psat few years, the others being, in order:
FCC
HoLV
BBK

Also, I like Pur pretty well too, I think Summerhead is pretty perfect as well, I never tire of it, though it is a bit loud by comparison to the rest of the album. On FCC, I also really love some tunes rarely mentioned here, Essence and My Truth. Oil of Angels would likely be my least favorite on that album, though I still like it.

[dynamine]

"G A R L A N D S"(uk edition w/extra tracks)

so young,fresh,and raw...kills me all the time.

[postlibyan]

for one thing, like the meditation thing PJK mentioned, I tend to be able to run Victorialand for several repetitions when I do put it in
i tend to put in Victorialand, then The Moon and the Melodies, then Ocean Songs by The Dirty Three (released on Bella Union, btw) then 2 other ambient discs that i am into that day, and just sit for hours..... sheer bliss.

PJK

[stumbo]

I almost voted for Treasure, but I went for HOH because I just listened to that. It's a close call for me between those two.....................

[Tinspur]

I really don't have a favorite CT album, mainly because I think the best tracks are strewn out over all their albums, ep's and singles rather evenly. Presently, I've been listening to a 2 cd compilation that I have made for a few friends of mine:

cd 1

1) In the Gold Dust Rush
2) From the Flagstones
3) Lorelei
4) Oomingmak (instrumental)
5) Pink Orange Red
6) Whales Tails
7) Orange-Appled
8) The Itchy Glowbo Blow
9) Cico Buff
10) Cherry-Coloured Funk
11) Heaven or Las Vegas
12) Dials
13) Winter Wonderland
14) Oil of Angels
15) Pur
16) Ice-Pulse
17) An Elan
18) Half-Gifts
19) Smile
20) Circling Girl (original version)

cd 2

1) Multifoiled
2) The Spangle Maker
3) Ivo
4) Beatrix
5) Plain Tiger
6) Fluffy Tufts
7) Love's Easy Tears
8) Carolyn's Fingers
9) Suckling the Mmmender
10) Pitch the Baby
11) Fotzepolitic
12) Summerblink
13) Bluebeard
14) My Truth
15) Three Swept
16) Frosty the Snowman
17) Cherry-Coloured Funk (Otherness)
18) Round
19) Eperdu
20) Tranqul Eye

[Moya xx]

Looks like I'm on my own with "The Moon and the Melodies" :(

I also have a couple of "compilation" Cocteaus cd's and I do tend to listen to them more than anything else - in the car etc etc

[fornasetti]

Interesting that you made a choice after all this time. Your profile says you couldn't decide on your favourite !!!

[Baddy2shoos]

moon and the melodies seriously depresses me it just sounds too old, I have a problem with listening to old stuff whereas Garlands sounds like it could have been made not too long ago. Treasure I also have a problem with, the drums on most of the tracks sound archaic but I luuurrrvvve Aloysius

my fave is still BBC Sessions and Blue bell knoll, I like the more accessible stuff they made on the whole.

[Moya xx]

Interesting that you made a choice after all this time. Your profile says you couldn't decide on your favourite !!!

Well.....I can't really....but today , it's MatM .... :blush:

[Thackeray]

ok so you missed my post where i said the same thing?

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRR!

btw, there's nothing like the stupid expressions that you'll see on my face and steve's once this track comes on at cocteaufest. we just kinda look at each other like freaks and start our interpretive cocteau dancing. it's sad, yet nice in a weird way.



mmmender and Watchy,

okay, I heard one of the cuts in your hotel-room Standard, mmmender; but at the Fest? I don't remember... I did take a lot of private walks with individuals that night plus I was hammer plaster schnockered like a rug-tail coot. Please, keep the heat on...I want to show my face again at the club there. I had so much fun dancing though.

[Thackeray]

I havent listened to ct in a month, does that mean It's time for my spanking?

Girl, :headbutt:
your bottom is tan-reddy. I'm giving it a go on one other thread already ;-)

Now bendover so I can grabhold your headphones and have a listen to UPS. :tongue:

[ScottL]

I really love MatM along w/Victorialand...I can easily play both on repeat back to back...but often for me it stands apart, and I probably just don't put it in quite as much.

For this thread I was trying to think about which gets the most listens...which may be one way of stating my favorite, but I don't see it like that....I mean, they are all so close, I wouldn't say I'm absolute about album favorites...particularly now, since I have all of it on my IPOD and computers, I am often playing a shuffle of songs.

[petroldarling]

i listen to blue bell knoll the most, definately. i just think THAT as a whole is the most perfect thing i have ever heard! i try to make everyone i know listen to it but i don't know if they are as moved by it as i am.

beyond that; heaven or las vegas, aikea-guinea, the second disk of bbc sessions, tiny dynamine/echoes in a shallow bay.

i don't think i have listened to victorialand in over a year.
*erp*

[mmmender]

i'm finding these poll results very interesting.

seems like their mid-career discography is the most popular.

[dprid]

I love the early stuff, but I've got to be in the right mood for it these days. I guess I'm not the angry young man I was when it came out, when it seemed to fit my mood exactly :)

[mmmender]

funny how so many fans seem to associate their early discography with that sort of angst. oddly enough, i find garlands to be a great album and quite uplifting at times. sure there are quite a few moody tracks but they certainly don't make up the bulk of the release. i still find time to play garlands and i still love it...especially the title track.

i'd love to hear a remix of garlands - done by someone respectable though - like guthrie. i think that album deserves to be updated and heard by more people. i think there's a certain unfair stigma attached to it because of it's age.

[dprid]

funny how so many fans seem to associate their early discography with that sort of angst. oddly enough, i find garlands to be a great album and quite uplifting at times. sure there are quite a few moody tracks but they certainly don't make up the bulk of the release. i still find time to play garlands and i still love it...especially the title track.

Wax & Wane does it for me :)


i'd love to hear a remix of garlands - done by someone respectable though - like guthrie. i think that album deserves to be updated and heard by more people. i think there's a certain unfair stigma attached to it because of it's age.

Yeah, that's a good point. Newcomers especially tend to hear the the later albums as their introduction to CT, and I think it comes as a bit of a shock to them when they hear the early stuff as it is very different (much as I got a shock when they released Victorialand). I don't think the early albums are as accessible and to be honest they do sound a bit dated compared to the later albums.

[watchlar]

i'd love to hear a remix of garlands - done by someone respectable though - like guthrie. i think that album deserves to be updated and heard by more people. i think there's a certain unfair stigma attached to it because of it's age.


funny you should say that ...because i don't mind the dated sound of Garlands as much as I do the hopelessly 80's sound of Treasure...

i would love to hear Treasure updated

[mmmender]

funny you should say that ...because i don't mind the dated sound of Garlands as much as I do the hopelessly 80's sound of Treasure...

i would love to hear Treasure updated
i think it's the drum machine that does it.

[watchlar]

yep it's that drum machine

yep

[ScottL]

funny how so many fans seem to associate their early discography with that sort of angst. oddly enough, i find garlands to be a great album and quite uplifting at times. sure there are quite a few moody tracks but they certainly don't make up the bulk of the release. i still find time to play garlands and i still love it...especially the title track.

I find it funny too...I never associated it with angst....certainly on the surface some of it seems dark and 'gothic' in one common use of that word...but I never personally felt any angst motivated by it. Though I too am less often in the mood for it. Dark music rarely gets me down, Garlands in particular is energizing and stimulating, and in addition I always connect a rather dreamy almost mystical feeling to it, when I am in that mood.

[Thackeray]

(THRASHING ELBOWS)

I like the early stuff just as well as any so my favorite is the latest release and superfavorite stuff is what I haven't heard yet...remember buying an album of their's when they came out or before you heard it? the moist anticipation!!! the butterflies playing tickle war in your belly?

Ha! I ain't never heard Milk and Kisses! I hope you are so freaking jealous -all of you!

[andylama]

It almost bugs me that FCC gets more votes than Victorialand or MatM.

[petroldarling]

i guess my mood is usually more fitting to the mid to later stuff....

i love garlands, and head over heels. LOVE. but i do listen to them less often.

[ScottL]

It almost bugs me that FCC gets more votes than Victorialand or MatM.

Why? It's just what other people like to listen to....really it means nothing to you, IMO. Oddly enough, FCC is right up there for me, but I did vote Victorialand...heh. Frankly, it mostly bugs me when people air their grudge against an album or song because others are expressing their affection for it. I'm not meaning to single you out in that, I see it in general on occasion, and it brought it to mind reading that.

all seriousness aside....it isn't like they are electing your president ;)

[fredofla]

FCC may be an acquired taste.

i know it took a long while for me to warm up to it.

much like M&K, it's a somewhat uneven affair in terms of consistency, and yet it still may contain 4 or 5 of the band's greatest songwriting moments.

there's no denying however that Victorialand is probably CT's most groundbreaking effort.....because it went places that no other rock band ever dared go.

[Baddy2shoos]

fcc is the pop album IMO. Bluebeard is such a great pop single and so is Summerhead...the acoustic version of bluebeard is possible the sweetest thing I've ever head

[mmmender]

fcc is the pop album IMO. Bluebeard is such a great pop single and so is Summerhead...the acoustic version of bluebeard is possible the sweetest thing I've ever head
no. a very young liz saying the title "pearly dewdrops' drops" with her heavy scottish accent, then giggling uncontrolably...........that's the sweetest thing.

[Baddy2shoos]

ok guv!

[fredofla]

...the acoustic version of bluebeard is possible the sweetest thing I've ever head



gee whiz.....i'm pretty sure i've never heard this one.

sigh.

[ScottL]

I like the acoustic version in some ways, mostly her vocal stuff on it...but I still prefer the original on the whole, which is for me is a source of unwaivering joy...

[Colin]

BBK was my gateway drug. It was my first CT disc; I worked (essentially) backward from there, getting Garlands and HOH last (HOLV & rest were not recorded yet). I now believe their first two records are gorgeous and stunning, but suspect if I'd heard these first they may have been too 'hard core' for me. I likely would have been scared off -- BBK eased me into the darkness.

[dynamine]

gee whiz.....i'm pretty sure i've never heard this one.
sigh.
what?.....
LIZ-"shit!"

[andylama]

Why? It's just what other people like to listen to....really it means nothing to you
Scott, I was entirely joking. It probably sounded a lot more earnest than I meant it.

It did used to bother me when new listeners would say stuff like "don't bother with anything before Blue Bell Knoll", but now I really don't have room in my life to care one iota.

I've never made a big secret of the fact that I am ambivalent about FCC, I mostly dislike M&K, and I absolutely have no use whatsoever for Twinlights.

I'm sure that bothers someone here, but I don't care about that either.

Nevertheless, to those who say "don't bother with anything before BBK", I hafta say: "bitch, you crazy!"

[mmmender]

gee whiz.....i'm pretty sure i've never heard this one.

sigh.
i think i played it at cocteaufest.

[watchlar]

gee whiz.....i'm pretty sure i've never heard this one.

sigh.hey fred...don't fret...it's on the disc i burned for you...just haven't had a chance to get to the post...

will do this week!!! or maybe give it to you on friday ;)

[mmmender]

i love the little funky sounds liz makes right at the beginning of that version....she sounds stoned outta her head and dare i say.......happy?!

[Simonp]

It's quite surprising that "Treasure" gets played so little by everyone and yet it is classed by many (particularily music press) as the album that typifies the Cocteau's sound. Most played album by myself would probably have to be FCC as it contains one of my all time faves "Know Who You Are At Every Age"

As for Milk & Kisses, I don't think it's as bad as everyone makes out...how can people deny the beauty of Violaine and Seekers xx.

[dprid]

As for Milk & Kisses, I don't think it's as bad as everyone makes out...how can people deny the beauty of Violaine and Seekers xx.
Agreed :) Milk & Kisses is the one I have in the CD changer in my car.

[ScottL]

Scott, I was entirely joking. It probably sounded a lot more earnest than I meant it.
...
Nevertheless, to those who say "don't bother with anything before BBK", I hafta say: "bitch, you crazy!"

That's cool, I didn't catch that you were joking I guess, but I understand. And telling them they're crazy to ignore previous material sounds fine to me, afterall that is at least encouraging people to listen to more than they presently are. I guess I've just tried to make more of a change for myself, focusing more on what I like rather than what I don't. I don't think it is bad to talk about, but still, unless we are discussing the finer points of why we don't like something, which I can find pretty interesting, I prefer to avoid bashing. Not that you were doing THAT...it just brought the idea to mind I suppose...more of a personal transition for myself, over the past few years I guess.

[fredofla]

hey fred...don't fret...it's on the disc i burned for you...just haven't had a chance to get to the post...

will do this week!!! or maybe give it to you on friday ;)



wow.

thanks, Steve.

i think you should bring it to CV on Friday and save yourself the postage.

then we can take over the dancefloor......and ether dance ourselves into oblivion.

hmmmm?

[Ghosty]

TREASURE TREASURE TREASURE

The first CT album I bought and still the best by far. When I think I know every second a bit comes along that's completely new to me. I don't play it that often any more because I never want to get tired of it. But it's the most played CT album in my LP/CD cabinet. The fact that not many people on this forum like it much is something that will never cease to amaze me because to me Treasure defines Cocteau Twins. Every other album pales in comparison. The only one that gets remotely close is Victorialand.

And I LIKE that drum machine dammit!

[mmmender]

treasure doesn't define cocteau twins.

if it did this forum wouldn't exist.

and milk & kisses is by far their weakest album. seekers, violaine, treasure hiding and ups are the only redeeming tracks.

songs like half-gifts and rilkean heart are so mediocre and middle of the road. liz has far more potential than she's reaching with her vocals on these tracks.

don't even talk to me about serpentskirt.

[fornasetti]

ooh eperdu

[Thackeray]

treasure doesn't define cocteau twins.

if it did this forum wouldn't exist.

and milk & kisses is by far their weakest album. seekers, violaine, treasure hiding and ups are the only redeeming tracks.

songs like half-gifts and rilkean heart are so mediocre and middle of the road. liz has far more potential than she's reaching with her vocals on these tracks.

don't even talk to me about serpentskirt.


ALRIGHT! Slowly! slide back your chair... place your hands on top of your head interlocking your fingers and stand up slowly...slowly now...okay turn around facing away from the computer!

(with mega-phone)Leesa, DON"T PUT THE DISC DOWN!!!!

-thacky ain't heard it yet. :music:

[fornasetti]

Blast man ! Go and get your M&K. It stomps all over 4CC.

[Thackeray]

Forny man,
I've asked every music store in town they say they can't even order it 'cause it was limited in quantity and only sold directly!!!!

(now I is cryin')

[mmmender]

then grab yourself a used one from ebay!

then copy the decent tracks and resell it on ebay.

[fredofla]

what!!!

i can't believe M&K is now out of print.

that really astounds me.

[Thackeray]

ahem, Leesa Lips, (smoochy)
I've got a friend on CT forums who is sending me a copy. Remember those butterflies warring in the belly I was talking about...hehe...I'll bet I'm gonna like all the tracks...I like serpentskirt on the BBC!

[fredofla]

then grab yourself a used one from ebay!

then copy the decent tracks and resell it on ebay.



geez.

what does a typical M&K CD fetch on ebay these days, i wonder?

blows me away.

:dunno:

[mmmender]

i don't believe for a second that M&K is out of print, seriously!

you can still buy it brand new from amazon.ca for $15 CDN

and all of the major retailers with online shops that i've checked have also got it in stock. perhaps the info you're getting is with regards to the digipak edition which was indeed printed in limited numbers and is now officially OOP.

i also checked ebay and there are loads of M&K cds listed. in fact one auction had the cd for sale for only $4.99 and no one bought it.

[dprid]

It's available from www.bellaunion.com if nowhere else.

[DavidKim]

It seems like the general consensus has always been that holv is the best CT album, and I would agree with that. But FCC has always been my favorite CT album. Every song has such a unique personality. The album feels like an opium trip through the memories of your first love, which didn't quite work out.

[Thackeray]

perhaps so Leesa,
the last place I checked was the record store in Barnes and Noble bookseller.

[ScottL]

i guess my mood is usually more fitting to the mid to later stuff....

i love garlands, and head over heels. LOVE. but i do listen to them less often.


This sums it up well for me too. I too find there are things I love which I don't like to listen to as much...

It's quite surprising that "Treasure" gets played so little by everyone and yet it is classed by many (particularily music press) as the album that typifies the Cocteau's sound.
Well, I would hasten to add that this poll doesn't reflect the balance of albums people do listen to....so it is possible that most people listen to it more than a little, just only few people listen to it the most on the whole.

TREASURE TREASURE TREASURE

The first CT album I bought and still the best by far. When I think I know every second a bit comes along that's completely new to me. I don't play it that often any more because I never want to get tired of it. But it's the most played CT album in my LP/CD cabinet. The fact that not many people on this forum like it much is something that will never cease to amaze me because to me Treasure defines Cocteau Twins. Every other album pales in comparison. The only one that gets remotely close is Victorialand.

And I LIKE that drum machine dammit!


Heh...that's cool...as with my comments above, I'd also say I think it is possible a good many people here do like Treasure quite well,....sure it isn't the most popular...I think it is good in its own way, I recognize why some people like and dislike certain aspects of it, overall I am quite glad to have it and listen to parts of it quite often. To be honest, I'm not such an album oriented person myself. I like the concept, especially when it works well, but otherwise I more often focus on songs. If I ranked songs most listened to, a few tracks on Treasure would be high on the list...my favorite is Aloysius. Though Beatrix is a close 2nd.

I think the drum machine thing is a matter of taste, I do find the drum tracks have an appeal at times, which I find mostly in Robin's work even though I don't care for the drum samples. Robin always impressed me with how he used whatever he had, this approach appealed to me from the start. But it isn't snobbery or anything, I can dig dated sounding stuff, really...with the drums on Treasure, I find certain timbres in the snare abrasive to my ear...could be worse, they probably gave it alot of help in the mix to not be so cutting...but that's just how it feels to me.

Oh yeah, also I was going to mention the age/culture aspect....I can't share the nostalgia with those who listened to Treasure at the time it came out....not that is a dominant factor, but it does make some difference I think....

[Ghosty]

treasure doesn't define cocteau twins.

if it did this forum wouldn't exist.
It defines CT to me. &Without Treasure I probably would never have gotten into them.

[Ghosty]

If I ranked songs most listened to, a few tracks on Treasure would be high on the list...my favorite is Aloysius.
You the man, scott!

[mmmender]

It defines CT to me. &Without Treasure I probably would never have gotten into them.
don't get me wrong, i love treasure....it just doesn't define their sound for me. actually, i'd be hard pressed to name one album that defines their sound simply because i find each of their releases quite different.

[Simonp]

treasure doesn't define cocteau twins.

Hi Leesa,

Was just commenting on the general opinion of the British Music Press when it came to describing the Cocteau's sound. Most of the music press here seem to think it represents what Cocteau Twins are all about, all floaty and ethereal...they could not be more wrong. When I saw them at the glasgow barrowlands they fucking rocked :guitar: I would most certainly not use Treasure as an introduction to a Cocteau virgin.

Love, milk and kisses xx.

[watchlar]

violaine live in '96...yeah rocked my ass
definitely not floaty and ethereal
;)

[Jeek]

i listen to blue bell knoll the most, definately. i just think THAT as a whole is the most perfect thing i have ever heard!

Here here! Though the CT disc in my collection I play the most is the Love's Easy Tears CDEP.

[mmmender]

Here here! Though the CT disc in my collection I play the most is the Love's Easy Tears CDEP.
i think by far this is the fave release with all ct fans......i recall a poll we did proved it too! it's simply fucking brilliant.

[andylama]

Mmm, sigh's smell of farewell. it still shivers me timbers. arrr.

/eyepatch

[fornasetti]

i think by far this is the fave release with all ct fans......i recall a poll we did proved it too! it's simply fucking brilliant.


Agreed, but LET is the one CT song that I want to have remixed, to bring some brightness and clarity to it.

[mmmender]

dont you dare - it's perfect

[fornasetti]

It is mud and darkness.

[mmmender]

that's another kick ass track.

too bad not too many have heard it.

[ScottL]

yeah, I don't like the washed out sound of LET...I wish Robin would remaster that EP...

[E-Lo]

I agree. Beautiful songs, terrible production. The treble is distorted and the bass is very weak and muddy

[noboybands]

NO!!!!!!!!!
not just love's easy tears - those eyes, that mouth and orange appled are absolutely perfect. doing anything with those would be sacrilege!

[mmmender]

NO!!!!!!!!!
not just love's easy tears - those eyes, that mouth and orange appled are absolutely perfect. doing anything with those would be sacrilege!
amen.

[Baddy2shoos]

listened to those last night, was very nice indeed...and peppermint pig, had a bit of a jig around my bedroom tot hat