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stratton
Nov-14-02, 4:50 AM
I was chatting with by the sea the other day and I mentioned that I thought the love affair between Robin and Liz was one of the greatest recorded in modern rock. He liked the sentiment a lot and thought I should post something about it. I have tossed this idea about in my head for quite some time. I keep coming back to it over and over. It's not just about the lyrics, which are really obvious on HOLV, FCC and M&K. For me it's about the interplay between his guitar and her voice. It's the way they duel and cry and sing to each other. Just listen to Pur with your headphones on for a sublime example of that. Simon's bass is a grounding effect. It keeps the music on an earthly plane. It also adds a lot of depth which is so integral to the music.

It's interesting to think about music in those terms when you know some of the history behind the people that make it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on the subject or have any suggestions for other great recorded love affairs? They don't have to be so literal(intimate relationship between a man and woman) as the one evoked in the Cocteau Twins, but that certainly adds a kick. Another obvious one to me is the collaboration between Richard and Karen Carpenter. Even though they were brother and sister there was definitely something going on between his music and her voice. They had the whole vocal layering thing down pat too. The last one I'll suggest is that of Owen Bradley(producer) and his muse, Patsy Cline. They may have never been lovers but you can definitely tell he was in love with her voice. Just listen to anything she recorded during the last two years of her life.

Stratton

zed
Nov-14-02, 5:27 AM
Stratton...........i've always thought that! just listen to cico buff.......
the middle bridge alone brings goosebumps!! liz and robin just soar!
it's as plain as the nose on your face.........
yeah.....i think it is somehow, the love of sound for sound!
of course there are other aspects also, but.....there it is.
it's a rare thing, but transforming when it works...i'm in the middle of one now. in my artistic career nothing comes close.
you really put your finger on it , i'll give you that!

ain't it grand!?:)

zed.

glint
Nov-14-02, 2:12 PM
Mazzy Star. Although that might just be more of a cohesiveness, since Opal didn't capture (imo) what Hope and Dave did.

would Budd and Eno count?

stratton
Nov-14-02, 2:14 PM
You're welcome. :) I just thought of another 'great love affair'. Eva Cassidy and Chris Biondo. She's just now(albeit post-humously) getting the recognition she deserves, thanks in great part to the lovely BBC. If you haven't heard her then I really recommend checking out 'Songbird'. It's in the folk-jazz-blues-gospel dept but simply stunning. Chris Biondo was her boyfriend, backup band and producer. Recommended listening: Wayfaring Stranger

Phil Lawton
Nov-14-02, 5:37 PM
I nominate Renee and Renato.

dynamine
Nov-14-02, 8:14 PM
even bowie w/jagger "dancing in the streets",but seriously
as with cico buff,i feel something there w/tishbite.though
pink orange red is quite strong also.

mmmender
Nov-15-02, 11:28 AM
the greatest love affair?
i nominate myself and my lil blue vibrator!:D

dynamine
Nov-15-02, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by mmmender
the greatest love affair?
i nominate myself and my lil blue vibrator!:D

WOOHOO!;)

Lucibelle
Nov-15-02, 12:51 PM
I have to include Dead Can Dance. Whilst not having the same kind of mixture of creativity as many of those mentioned, including CT, they were able to work with and yield to each other's creative visions for all those years.

It is easy to connect and create with someone who's creative vision is identical to yours, but in DCD, there is often the 'Brendan' songs and the 'Lisa' songs. I feel it takes a lot of love to yield to another artist and see to it that their vision is realized.

dprid
Nov-15-02, 1:00 PM
Originally posted by mmmender
the greatest love affair?
i nominate myself and my lil blue vibrator!:D

You know, the more I find out about this mmmender character, the more I like her :D