Gordon Sharp/Cindytalk/The Rosary

[mmmender]

ok i'm sure most (if not all) of you have noticed that on the back of the garlands sleeve it says........

"Déar carol, Wé shall both die in your rosary: Elizabeth"

now......if anyone else out there has a copy of the cindytalk "camouflage heart" album

btw cindytalk's vocalist was gordon sharp...who worked on the this mortal coil album "it'll end in tears".....robin, simon and liz all worked on it as well but simon and gordon did tracks like "kangaroo" and "a single wish" together.......but i'm digressing.

anyway if you look at the insert for "camouflage heart" it says.......

"elizabeth....is there room in the rosary for three"

anyone else notice this??

[someotherian]

sounds to me like there was some hot 4AD menage-a-trois action going on... ;)

[Lucibelle]

:eek:

[dynamine]

you read my mind, i have that record and was gonna
post about that too.
:p i love that record

[Brett]

There is the obvious connection with that Peel session as well as the contribution to ‘It’ll end in tears’ but I wonder whether anyone here road-tested his mainstay band Cindytalk? If you did, how did you rate it?

General thoughts on the career of Gordon Sharp?

(He wanted to be a CT didn’t he?)

[E-Lo]

I love Gordon's voice, and I have a few CINdYTALK releases, each one of them is very, very different from the other. Generally though, it is quite unlike anything by This Mortal Coil or CT. My favorite album is the double LP In This World, which is a mix of ambient piano and found-sound pieces with very abrasive guitar, noisy industrialish tracks. Interesting little bit of trivia -- on the liner notes of the early 80s release Camouflage Heart there is a quote, "Elizabeth, is there room in the rosary for three?"

I was fortunate to catch them live in the LA area a few years back, and the show was perhaps the loudest and most aggressive thing I have ever seen. It was so loud I actually had to leave, something I have never done.

Apparently Gordon is fond of cross-dressing, at the show he was wearing this pink fluffy thing!

I think he lives in Los Angeles now, he sometimes plays underground shows at a local club called The Smell under a different noise-guise, Bambule.

[Iwan]

Gordon is the best, but can be very challenging to say the least. I have not really dived into his Bambule stuff, but heard it's more noise than anything else really.

Cindytalk (or as he writes it CINdYTALK) is great, and very worthwile checking out.

Do check out their last album, Wappinschaw, if you get a chance, it's pretty accessible and holds some great tunes. Thankfully it includes all 4 tracks of the totally amazing Secrets & Falling EP, albeit some if not all tracks are re-recorded.

His 1st, Camouflage Heart, should appeal to Cocteau Twins/This Mortal Coil fans and is a true classic.

The 'In This World' album can indeed be described with ambient piano tracks and industrial pieces. These were actually 2 albums with the same name released on the same date by Midnight Music, the CD version holds both on one.

And finally, 'The Wind Is Strong...' is a soundtrack-like album, but not very interesting much like most movie soundtracks (this album might actually have been recorded for a movie that was never finished or something like that).

Apparently he's releasing a new 7" under the Cindytalk name soonish after a 9-year hiatus (the Wappinschaw album together with the Prince Of Lies 7" was his latest feat).


His website:
http://www.cindytalk.org/

[watchlar]

i enjoyed Gordon's contributions to THIS MORTAL COIL, but never explored him beyond that arena because sometimes....eerily enough...when he'd hit a certain pitch i'd be flooded with images of Tiny Tim...:eek:
http://www.tinytim.org/photo/images/tiny-strumming.jpg

[Iwan]

Thanks Watchlar... now I can't browse THIS thread either. You have a way of finding disturbing pictures. First the clowns, now Tiny Tim... It's a sad, sad world.

[Phil Lawton]

I think, before people realise just how tragically un-hip I really am, that I'll refrain from asking who Gordon Sharp is.

He invented the combination ghetto-blaster/microwave oven, yes?

[chaco75]

I love cindytalk when they're quiet, I find it a lot stronger than when it's loud and noisy...

[Iwan]

I don't really have a preference for just the loud or just the quiet songs... most of it is great.

And of course Gordon also is Macbeth (or MacBeth?) that contributed that 1 song to one of the Volumes (Volume 5 I believe) which Robin also worked on.

This thread just makes me want to play my Cindytalk stuff.... but all that stuff is on the other side of the ocean / pond. Bummer.

[someotherian]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
I think, before people realise just how tragically un-hip I really am, that I'll refrain from asking who Gordon Sharp is.
don't worry about un-hipness phil.
i was expecting watchy's picture to be of the poor little bastard from A Christmas Carol!
i've heard of Gordon Sharp, but who the fuck is this Tiny Tim bloke?

[Brett]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
I think, before people realise just how tragically un-hip I really am, that I'll refrain from asking who Gordon Sharp is.



If you've got 'It'll end in tears' his tonsils grace Kangaroo and A single wish. If you've got the Peel Session CT's , the one with Dear Heart on, he sings backing. (Does anyone know how that came about BTW?)

All I knew was that he had a band called Cindytalk but they were much darker/louder than the vocal on Kangaroo (which I adore). If he'd sung like Kangaroo all the time I would have bought everything by him. However he claimed not to be interested and only consented to sing Kangaroo for Ivo because he liked the line "Oh I want you, like a Kangaroo".

I DO actually have Camoflage Heart LP somewhere but I never gave it a chance which is why I asked the experts opinions.

[Phil Lawton]

If you've got 'It'll end in tears' his tonsils grace Kangaroo and A single wish.

Ah...therein lies the source of my ignorance, in a sort of negative space type of way.

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by E-Lo Interesting little bit of trivia -- on the liner notes of the early 80s release [I]Camouflage Heart there is a quote, "Elizabeth, is there room in the rosary for three?"

This is a beautiful quote !
BTW,who was this Carol Liz referred to in Garlands ?

ballerina

[Iwan]

If my memory is correct, Liz talks about Carol in the '83 Dutch Vinyl issue (you know, the one with the flexi). Apparently she is her best friend and the album made her think of Carol... 'this is sooo Carol'. And that's all I think she said. I don't have the magazine with me, so I can't translate the literal words for you.

But MJ.... You seem to be the article & clippings-goddess on this board, I'm surprised you didn't come across that name before yourself. ;)

[Maria Jose]

You have to leave some space for imperfection ;)
Thanks a bunch !

[simon alexander]

I did in fact meet Mr Sharp as a nervy scrap of a lad during my abortive term at St. Andrews University, Scotland after a Mary Margaret O'Hara gig in Edinburgh. I rather squirmingly recall him getting quite annoyed with my over-enthusiastic attempts to engage the truly otherwordly, very sweet and ever so tiny Mary Margaret in conversation backstage afterwards, as he was trying to sell her the idea of doing a cover version (thats her and him, not him and me, nor, indeed, me and her) of Roberta Flack's 'The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face' at the time. When I brought up the blessed Cocteaus as we ambled outside, he referred rather sourly to Robin's tongue-in-cheek remark about their making music being like going to the toilet, which he took to mean RG 's assessment of CT's output was on a par with excrement. Like a lot of young Scottish men, he spoke very quietly (by contrast with Cindytalk's apparently deafening live racket) and yet exuded a kind of low-level menace. But, Gordon, if you're reading this, thanks for putting me on to Lynch and Tarkovsky - you made an artsy student even artsier.

Anyway, the Flack thing set me thinking (if it hasn't already been discussed) -- are there any songs (leaving aside the preposterous Frosty the Snowman/Winter Wonderland shenanigans) you wish the Cocteaus/Liz had covered before they self-destructed?

[mmmender]

btw, here's a copy of a thread i started back in november which talked about this...........

http://www.herb-bauer.com/~leesa/cocteautwins/vBulletin/full/showthread.php?s=&threadid=790&highlight=rosary

[Maria Jose]

I've just come across this thru a French website .
Interesting bits of info , like :

As an epitaph, a dedication to Liz Fraser on "CAMOUFLAGE HEART" closes the period of collaborations: "Elizabeth... is there room in the rosary for three", the rosary being that of the Cocteau Twins song Garlands, where we die without end. As an echo to this amorous message, Liz offered Gordon a title on "TREASURE": Pandora (for Cindy).

In 1992, Gordon collaborated with Robin Guthrie (COCTEAU TWINS) on an unedited song recorded for VOLUME 5 (the famous series of compilations + magazines by Rob Deacon). Hidden under the name of MACBETH, he offers his interpretation of the song refused by Ivo -- the music of this Help Me Lift You Up is sumptuous, eclipsing the version by THIS MORTAL COIL. The voice is soft and tight, grating and silky. With a wink toward his Scottish friends, he envisioned using Lucybelle (the daughter of Liz Fraser and Robin Guthrie) for background-babblings, but with Ivo having already "hired" her for the album "BLOOD" by THIS MORTAL COIL (listen carefully to the album!), he renounced the idea.


ballerina

http://www.cindytalk.org/articles/trinity2en.html

[mmmender]

maria jose, i mentioned the 'camoflauge heart' dedication in the link i provided.....i guess no one read it though!

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by mmmender
maria jose, i mentioned the 'camoflauge heart' dedication in the link i provided.....i guess no one read it though!

No , I think we did ! I did !
The important bit is the Pandora ( For Cindy ) .
I just included it so that Liz 's dedication made sense . And the Lucibelle info !
I devotedly read everything you post !:D

[Iwan]

Thank you very much Maria Jose.... very informative article. I didn't know the Pandora dedication, it makes perfect sense now. Now... I need to ask you a very personal question...:

Will you be my search engine??? :D


Btw.. I thought the collaboration between Gordon Sharp and Black Rose was disappointing

[Maria Jose]

Thanks , Iwan !
Isn't the Pandora dedication a lovely bit ?
Search engine ?

I love researching different things !
Cross-reference , working in any possible language ,getting new clues .
The existing search engines , and I'm totally computer - illiterate , are so primitive !

[zed]

MJ,..........

you do fabulous work here. i thouroughly enjoy your hunts.

this thread in particular is begining to facinate me. it seems a really strange story is hinted at inbetween the lines don't you think?

thanks for the information.........

back to the old drawing board.


really.

Z.ballerina

[Maria Jose]

[i]Originally posted by zed

back to the old drawing board.

Z.ballerina [/B]

When do I get to see YOUR work ? :D

The first This Mortal Coil recording must have been quite something , for all the intensity the artists involved had to throw into it,making them feel so vulnerable.
And I think Gordon Sharp must really like Liz a lot !

ballerina

[Maria Jose]

Melody Maker , April 16 , 1988 . . .

A dagger of a voice. You might have heard it before, joining The Cocteau Twins on radio sessions and occasional live performances. Or, before that, fronting a forgotten Scottish pop group called The Freeze who released two semi-spectacular singles before falling out and apart.

Between The Freeze and Cindytalk, Sharp was invited to join Duran Duran. This is actually true. Later, HE WAS ASKED TO "JOIN" THE COCTEAU TWINS. Both prospects made him shake his head very firmly. He just wasn't interested. Cindytalk was interesting to him. More than that. Cindytalk had to be. "Camouflage Heart" sounds like a record that had to be. Every last tortuous stab of it. It left Sharp, again, emptied.

[Iwan]

MJ, I love you, I really do. I thought I was good with getting info from the web, but you've got me beat. Duran Duran??

And why the f*#&! didn't I make mp3's from my Cindytalk stuff back in Europe the last time I was there??? I need to get a healthy dose of his work!!

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Iwan
MJ, I love you, I really do. I thought I was good with getting info from the web, but you've got me beat. Duran Duran??

And why the f*#&! didn't I make mp3's from my Cindytalk stuff back in Europe the last time I was there??? I need to get a healthy dose of his work!!

Back in Europe ? So where do you come from originally?
I think I also need something like a Cindytalk week . . .
To finish , just to say that whatever info we find , we should always take it with a pinch of salt.You never know .
I try to post what has some sort of credibility but then again . . .

ballerina

[Iwan]

Originally posted by Maria Jose


Back in Europe ? So where do you come from originally?


I'm from the Netherlands ... land of Mecano (the band, not the Spanish group or the toy!!), Clan of Xymox, the Nightblooms... and who knows what else ;)

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Iwan


Mecano (the band, not the Spanish group

roflmao roflmao you know Mecano !!!!! roflmao roflmao

I was in Amsterdam for the first time last December and fell in love with it !
At 6am I was at this amazingly artistic "cafe" , the weedy type , warm lights ,
incredible ironwork , pleasant club music , vegetarian breakfast .
People were really nice !

ballerina

[Iwan]

I don't really know the Spanish band, but I run into it on eBay all the time when I'm trying to look for stuff by the Dutch band...

If you know the Dutch band... they have a retrospective type 2CD out (Half Inch Universe), you should check it out.. Amazing songs, very jazzy punk...

and you might actually appreciate the Russian songs they do? ;)

Amsterdam is pretty cool... haven't been able to hang out there much. I mean.. it IS on the opposite side of the country where I lived all my life :D

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Iwan
I don't really know the Spanish band, but I run into it on eBay all the time when I'm trying to look for stuff by the Dutch band...
If you know the Dutch band... they have a retrospective type 2CD out (Half Inch Universe), you should check it out.. Amazing songs, very jazzy punk...
and you might actually appreciate the Russian songs they do? ;)
Amsterdam is pretty cool... haven't been able to hang out there much. I mean.. it IS on the opposite side of the country where I lived all my life :D

You don 't want to hear Mecano ! Although I admit to having used their songs in my Spanish classes :o
Russian songs ? Oh , you've noticed . . .
It's just my Diaguilev/ Nijinsky/ Stravinsky fetisch . . .
Now I have a Russian ballet shelf in my library . . .:rolleyes:

[Iwan]

In case anyone is interested, this is the link to the official website of Mecano (AGAIN: The Dutch band, not the Spanish :) ):

http://www.mecano.ws/

[iceblink555]

Originally posted by mmmender
btw, here's a copy of a thread i started back in november which talked about this...........

http://www.herb-bauer.com/~leesa/cocteautwins/vBulletin/full/showthread.php?s=&threadid=790&highlight=rosary

This raises a technical question I've been meaning to ask: Is there any way to revive an archived thread? In this case, could you merge a copy of the archived Rosary thread with the active Cindytalk thread? If this is possible, could we make a request to an Admin/Mod when we'd like to resuscitate an old thread? --Alan

[mmmender]

Originally posted by iceblink555


This raises a technical question I've been meaning to ask: Is there any way to revive an archived thread? In this case, could you merge a copy of the archived Rosary thread with the active Cindytalk thread? If this is possible, could we make a request to an Admin/Mod when we'd like to resuscitate an old thread? --Alan

DONE! the original thread "i could die in the rosary" dated november 17, 2002 has been merged with this thread.

and yes alan, in future if you'd like any thread resuscitated just ask myself or one of the mods.

[Maria Jose]

Cindytalk were supposed to release a much-awaited single in March but it was postponed till June .
It's a 7" limited edition single with two tracks :
Transgender Warrior
Guts of London

http://www.klanggaleries.com/says/catalogue/gg62.html

[Iwan]

Yeah... I read about it on the 4AD board too. I just think it's a little expensive ($14 + Sales Tax + shipping)... I'm a little put off by that and not sure if I should order it or not. Even if there's only going to be 150 copies of it.

[Maria Jose]

Iwan , have you read that 4AD thread again?
What do you think about Cinder ?
Seems like he IS Gordon . . .

[Iwan]

I don't know... this is the internet after all. It's kinda difficult to check if it's really him. If it is... fine, I'm glad he stops by and shows some interest. If it isn't him, that's fine too, really.

Maybe he has to promote himself to sell all those 150 7"s? If you end up buying one, let me know if it's worthwile!

[E-Lo]

It sounds like its him, although it was my understanding that he was in California (he DJd and played under Brambule guise a while back in Los Angeles semi-regularly), but Hong Kong is just a trans-Pacific jump away I guess . . .

[fredofla]

never cared for Cindytalk......probably because of a very conventional drummer.

but i did like the GS contributions on the TMC series.

what song should Liz have covered?

oh geez maybe that Vicki Carr standard, "It Must Be Him....." warbled in dense Swahili.

dear gawd.

why do i so detest covers....?


:)

[Iwan]

Fred... I was thinking of a new thread that deals with covers.... Now, I'm going to start one!! :D

[Maria Jose]

So , it seems Cinder IS Gordon Sharp!!
I asked him about the Cocteaus in the 4AD
discussion boards and this is what he replied :

" celtic soul sisters

yes my relationship with the cocteaux goes back a long way.
we grew up not far from each other in central scotland.my
band,the freeze [1976-1982] often played in grangemouth,
home to robin & liz.robin's older brother was the local promoter.
robin's earlier bands sometimes supported us and liz was
nearly always in the audience.she danced like a punk dervish!
liz and i always had an [unspoken] internal connection,i imagine
that's why we sent those messages back and forth to each other
on our records.yes,i be the cindy of pandora.if i recall,i introduced
liz to the work of louise brooks [silent film actress] and her most
famous role,lulu,in the german expressionist film "pandora's box".
[directed by gw pabst.1929].

hong kong phooey
cindy


AmaAAAAAAAzing !!!!

ballerina

[Iwan]

A little bit of new trivia has been unearthed by your question MJ.... Pandora's origin. Thanks MJ.

[Maria Jose]

Call me the Cocteau archaeologist ! :D
I find all the Pandora bit fascinating !

ballerina

[zed]

................lovely work!!:D

Z.ballerina

[Maria Jose]

http://www.pandorasbox.com/louisebrooks/pix/books/script.jpg

I have a poster of this in my study room . . .

http://www.cinema.se/artiklar_/brooks/profil2.jpg

[E-Lo]

Wow, MJ! You've outdone yourself! Muchas gracias again for unearthing some fantastic bits of information -- if I ever need a detective, you are the 1st person to consult with!

clapping

[watchlar]

yeah E-Lo....she can get the lowdown on any Papi chulos you are interested in

[Maria Jose]

Just imagine Liz as a "punk dervish" !!!

[Maria Jose]

The Wedding scene from Pandora's Box . . .

http://www.english.mankato.msus.edu/larsson/gr%20images/lulu.jpg

[E-Lo]

Originally posted by watchlar
yeah E-Lo....she can get the lowdown on any Papi chulos you are interested in
roflmao well, although I'm sure Kobe has its share of Japanese cuties, I can't see any sexy "vato locos" prowling the geisha districts!

[REPLICESS]

Originally posted by Maria Jose
So
I asked him about the Cocteaus in the 4AD
discussion boards



!!!! URL please ? :D

[Maria Jose]

More from Gordon . . .

"maria jose,you are most welcome... memories of singing with liz,hmmm...
my most vivid memories were doing live shows with them actually [the peel
sessions were quickly done and i imporovised my contributions,i hadn't even
heard the songs before.likewise with TMC,i hadn't heard kangaroo before
recording it],it was singing live with CT that ivo saw me and decided he wanted my involvement on a greater scale.and it was him who asked me if i might be interested in actually joining the band.i never found out if he had discussed that thought with them or not.i said no immediately and it was never mentioned again.anyways,i remember the feeling of those live shows was electric...we didn't "really" rehearse so all my singing was pure improvisation .. it was scary and exhilarating at the same time. i also remember being barefoot on stage and smearing my feet and legs in lipstick [for some weird early 1980's reason].hehe.it was all very dry ice & ethereal.
but i think our voices merged really well,considering.

yes,the punk dervish was amazing as i recall.never did see her do it once
she started singing though.shame... "


ballerina

[E-Lo]

Originally posted by REPLICESS



!!!! URL please ? :D

Voila, Madame Replicess:

http://beggars.bway.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=7783&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Maria Jose
More from Gordon . . .



yes,the punk dervish was amazing as i recall.never did see her do it once
she started singing though.shame... "


ballerina

No wonder she was spotted by Robin , always one to recognise talent !

ctblue

[REPLICESS]

THANKIES :D

[watchlar]

from punk dervish to disco diva...nice ring to it roflmao

ERNIE GET YOUR SILVER PLATFORMS ON....LIZ IS COMING IN FOR A LANDING!!!!!

[cinder]

in case anybody is interested....

the freeze released a 7inch single in 1980 called "celebration",
it was written for and dedicated to louise brooks.i even sent
her a copy to her home in rochester,new york.she would have
received it "shortly" before she died.at that time she was only
a footnote in the history of cinema culture.i came across her
in an article in the observer [newspaper UK] magazine in 1979.
i was first transfixed by the striking images but then awed by
her story.the intellect and the mischief.stunning.i then tried to
research more into her life but found it almost impossible to find
any really substantial information.the french loved her but nobody
else seemed to at that time [jean luc godard had tipped his hat
to her in the character of nana in his wondrous film "vivre
sa vie].this was a couple of years or so before her book "lulu in
hollywood" was published.after the freeze single came out,with
a mesmerising picture of her on the cover,i was inundated by
people asking who she was,so many that i had to write a pamphlet
on her to hand out to those that were interested.by that time,
she was beginning to get the recognition she deserved,both as
an actress and as a genuinely original woman of intellect
and substance.

p.s. i had to fight with the people who had the rights to the picture
i wanted to use [it's in the freeze section of www.cindytalk.org], at
first they refused me permission to use the one i had requested and
sent me a bunch of other possibilities but i was determined to use
one image in particular... i kept at them and eventually they agreed.
it was worth the fight as that particular image is stunning,almost as
cool as the first [big] pic maria jose posted,the one with the ultra cool
dress.mmm mmmm.i wants me one of those... btw that's the picture on the
book of the pandora's box screenplay that was the first ever book
i managed to find relative to LB.

p.p.s... anybody that has "camouflage heart"... if you listen really closely
at the beginning of "under glass"... i whisper the words "walk in,walk in
to my menagerie"... the opening lines to frank wedekinds lulu plays,from
which pandora's box originally comes from.

i'll shut up now

blink on the brink...
cindy x

[E-Lo]

I'm waiting . . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38039000/jpg/_38039899_platform_shoes.jpg

[watchlar]

LOL ernie....and welcome cinder...er uh..ignore tiny tim pic on first page :eek:

[E-Lo]

Gordon, er. Cinder!

Will you be coming through Los Angeles area on your way back to Europe? I recall you DJing some Bambule shows in Downtown LA area a few years back . . . and caught your show in Corona, California (around the time Wappinschaw was released) before that . . . it was SO intense!

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by cinder
in case anybody is interested....
p.p.s... anybody that has "camouflage heart"... if you listen really closely
at the beginning of "under glass"... i whisper the words "walk in,walk in
to my menagerie"... the opening lines to frank wedekinds lulu plays,from
which pandora's box originally comes from.

i'll shut up now

blink on the brink...
cindy x

That was so beautifully amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's not with me now . . .
Shivers all over . . .

Thank you very much , Cindy !

:bow:

[Iwan]

ok... can we stick to one board to have our chit chat?? :D

And.... Welcome Cinder

[mmmender]

welcome to my humble abode gordon!

http://delsjourney.com/Images/Im_News/Im_News_02-03-11/2-2799_Kangaroo_Sign.jpg

[Brett]

So a couple of days ago I started a thread about Gordon, which became this, and now he's here!
:D :D :D

[someotherian]

my dad's name is gordon. i didn't think anyone else was called that.
er.. that's all.

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Brett
So a couple of days ago I started a thread about Gordon, which became this, and now he's here!
:D :D :D

Can you please start one about Liz ?
I'll see what I can do . . .diva2

LOL . . .

[iceblink555]

Originally posted by Maria Jose

Can you please start one about Liz ?
I'll see what I can do . . .diva2
LOL . . .

If anyone can drag her outta hiding, it's you, MJ!

I need to check out some Cindytalk sometime soon. I've always liked the version of Kangaroo on It'll End in Tears. Had forgotten who did the vocals. --Alan

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by iceblink555
[B]
If anyone can drag her outta hiding, it's you, MJ!

More chances of bringing Cleopatra back to life I'm afraid . . . :rolleyes:

[REPLICESS]

Hey Cinder !
Did you see my 4AD post ?

Nice to 'see' you :)

Oh, and btw, my ex-husband had a 'thing' for Louise, and it really pissed me off ! :p

[mmmender]

Originally posted by Brett
So a couple of days ago I started a thread about Gordon, which became this, and now he's here!
:D :D :D

i actually started the thread about cindytalk last november, take a look at the first post in this thread....i merged yours with mine.

anyway, who cares? he's here now! :)

[Maria Jose]

Exactly !
His memories and comments about the Cocteaus and Liz couldn 't be more endearing and we are all very , very grateful ! I just loved it !
But mmmender , I think we should have a word or two on Pandora's Box , the movie , considering that surely you named this very same section after it !


http://www.cindytalk.org/images/lucinder.gif

[cinder]

oi!!!

you welcome me with kind words and now you chase me away with
ancient pictures !!! how embarrashing....

i think i'll go hide in the shadows again.pshaw.

;-)

lost for words
cindy x

[Maria Jose]

Oh , do not be so shy , ancient is beautiful !
Did you get my msg ?

ballerina

[Iwan]

Be aware of MJ!! She is capable of finding anything on the net... old or new, embarrassing or not :D

[Maria Jose]

I wonder . . .what's the time in HK now ?
It's already 3am here in Kobe ,trying to do some work while I check the boards , the last thing more likely . . .

[cinder]

mj...

hk is an hour behind japan time,so we're at 2.13am saturday.
yes i got your msg. thanks. will try to work on a double comp
for you and iwan.it should be called "touchedRAWkissedsour".
the cover will be two loving milk bottles facing each other,
awaiting their moment of passion, as molotov cocktails....

hello everybody.
cindy x

[Maria Jose]

What a great cover that is going to be !
Vive la poesie du lait!

[chaco75]

I cannot wait to hear the new work; lovely song titles and artwork...by the way cindy, did you get my email?

[REPLICESS]

Such Adoring Fans Gordon ! ;)

[Pale Clouded]

Wow! I was always wondering who "carol" and "Cindy" were!

Maria Jose, please help! Do I have this right? :

Okay, Carol is Liz's best friend, hence the quote on Garlands and the song on BBK, Carolyn's Fingers (I would imagine).

And Cindy is Gordon Sharp's nick name, hence Pandora (for Cindy)
Pandora being the Louise Brooks film. I looove Louise Brooks btw! And real old films!

And is that really Liz and Robins baby on TMC's Blood?

and Gordon does a cover of Help me lift you up on Volume 5?

Whew, please tell me if I have this right.....

Also I always wanted to pick up a copy of a cindytalk cd, because i always liked Gordon Sharps voice. From what I'm reading I guess thier first one is the one to get?

[Iwan]

PaleClouded:

If you enjoy early 80s music like Siouxsie Sioux, Birthday Party, Cocteau Twins, Cure et cetera... yes, pick up Camouflage Heart. You'll love it.

All albums are very different, which is a good thing... no need for recycling. I personally would recommend Wappinschaw for starters, but that's just my opinion.

And I think your statements are pretty accurate... I don't know about Carolyn's Fingers or the baby on Blood though :)

[Pale Clouded]

Thanks Iwan! Yes I do love early 80's music.....now hopefully I can find a copy of the first cd!

[mmmender]

camouflage heart is available through amazon for $25, if you're interested follow this link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000035XB/qid=1053220617/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/102-2443754-0818531?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)

amazon also has one other available title......but i would try ebay for both, you might find them cheaper there!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006YGG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Maria Jose]

That's the spirit Leesa !
Cheers !

[Iwan]

World Serpent in the UK used to distribute all of Cindytalk's music. Even though I believe all (?) of his albums have been rereleased on Touched Recordings, you are more likely to come across a Midnight Music release.

So it seems as everything is out of print these days. World Serpent does have 2 (CHEAP!!) vinyls on stock: Wappinschaw and the very limited Prince Of Lies/Muster 7" (only 922 exist).

World Serpent's URL:

www.worldserpent.com

They also distribute Elijah's Mantle's label De Nova Da Capo in case you are interested in anything Dead Can Dance related.

[Phil Lawton]

Is this the bloke I was asking about? The one who invented the combination microwave/bottle opener?

Good health to you, sir - I've used your products on many occasions and found them most helpful.

Apart, that is, when your "Sharp Leg Waxer/Skittle Retriever" fair near took out Lady Vader's eye during a canasta tournament in February.

She's been laid up with an acute case of quartles in her splins ever since.

[Maria Jose]

'fraid tis the very same one ,sir Lawton !
And there may be a bottle connection . . .
he knows . . .

ballerina

[cinder]

aye you might very well laugh but you have no idea of the pain
and humiliation i had to endure on the occasion of having my
name branded on the shirts of the dreaded manchester united.

on that note... i'm hereby changing my name to carling.

shivering at thoughts of glory in sevilla
hail hail the celts are here
cindy

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by cinder
aye you might very well laugh but you have no idea of the pain
and humiliation i had to endure on the occasion of having my
name branded on the shirts of the dreaded manchester united.

on that note... i'm hereby changing my name to carling.

shivering at thoughts of glory in sevilla
hail hail the celts are here
cindy


roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao

[cinder]

E-Lo... sorry i didn't mean to ignore your question,i'm just a bit scatty,
is all.i'm sure i'll pass through LA again,i have a return ticket from HK so
i'll prob'ly use it sooner or later.yes i was involved in the setting up of
an underground soundsystem in the LA region [darkmatter].the smell
was one of our usual party venues.we had a fairly open music policy
but we tended toward experimental electronix [somatic responses/dan hekate/lory d/pcp/praxis records/widerstand/dj scud/john weise/venetian snares/doormouse/daniel menche/black mass plastics etc etc] but you
would also hear cindytalk/mogwai/god speed you black emperor and
other non-[obviously] electronic stuff in there as well.i also instigated a
darkmatter cinema policy as well.we had a huge screen behind the dj
table and at each party i'd show an array of world cinema classics
[to the soundtrack of "extreme electronics & splintered beats"],
such films as tarkovsky's nostalgia/luis bunuel's exterminating angel/
dziga vertov's the man with the movie camera/gw.pabst's pandora's box/
pasolini's medea & salo/nagisa oshima's in the realm of the senses
and many many others...the effect of intoxicating sounds and highly
stimulating images was heady indeed.shame you never made it along.
the soundsystem is still active,although i think the smell has since been
shut down by the fire department.but there will hopefully be some more parties in the future.i'll still be sending my filmic choices back to LA for
future showings and hopefully will attend myself soon.

keep in touch,maybe i can let you know next time darkmatter throws
a party.
cheers
cinder

[Maria Jose]

luis bunuel's exterminating angel

Oh , I adore that film !!!!!!

[Maria Jose]

For those of you who haven't heard it before or for the ones who want to remember , from the 4AD list and only for a brief period of time .
Macbeth's Help Me Lift You Up, produced by Robin Guthrie .
Cindy , I love your new work , but OH , your voice !
Shall we start a "seeking liz " type of thread as well ? ;)

http://members.rogers.com/redshift2/macbeth/MacBeth_-_Help_Me_Lift_You_Up.mp3

[cinder]

Shall we start a "seeking liz " type of thread as well ?

aye you just do that... liz and i always promised each other,
that one day we'd record an album together where the only
music was the gentle collision of our swooping voices.

don't tempt me to go find her and fulfil that promise...

cx

[Maria Jose]

Oh , my God !!!!!
So there is a way !!!!!!!!!!
By the Sea , quickly come here !!!
How's air travel from Greece to Hong Kong these days ??? roflmao


ballerina ballerina ballerina

[Brett]

:D

[Iwan]

Yesterday I was soooo close to mentioning something about Sharp sponsoring the evil Man U in the past... but I thought that would be lost on most of you... Goes to show what I know ;)

I do like my countryman Ruud van Nistelrooij though! Too bad our Dutch players can never bring their best game to the big stage.

[Iwan]

Their best game playing for our national team I mean... they always do their best for the team that actually pays them. Makes sense, but does piss me off sometimes!

[Maria Jose]

[i]Originally posted by Iwan
I do like my countryman Ruud van Nistelrooij though! Too bad our Dutch players can never bring their best game to the big stage. [/B]

Oh , Iwan , plizzzzz !
Do not get me started with the footy !!!!
And *OF ALL * do not mention *ANY* Dutch players *OR* coaches for that matter if you don 't want me to strangle you softly *BUT* persistently . . .
FC Barcelona totally sucked this year .
Last December I even refused to accompany my father to a match for fear of breaking all the past good memories and have to confront the sort of team we had become . . . At least we got rid Of Van Gaal . . . too late !


http://www.fcbarcelona.com/layout/img/00idiomas_logo.gif

And , now , back to the music , ahem , ahem . . .

[Iwan]

Let's just say that I can't stand Barcelona... or Van Gaal (I mean, he did fuck up our WC qualification too).

And I'm not really into asphyxiation... so thank you, but no thanks!

[Iwan]

Although Johan Neeskens (one time Barcelona player and scorer in a WC final) is now the trainer of my favourite team NEC Nijmegen in the Netherlands and they are competing for a UEFA cup place!

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Iwan
Let's just say that I can't stand Barcelona... or Van Gaal (I mean, he did fuck up our WC qualification too).
And I'm not really into asphyxiation... so thank you, but no thanks!

Oh , that's too bad , I was really looking forward to lay my hands on you . . .
;)
You're the only Dutch at hand . . . so far . . .
roflmao

[Brett]

Forca Barca

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Iwan
Although Johan Neeskens (one time Barcelona player and scorer in a WC final) is now the trainer of my favourite team NEC Nijmegen in the Netherlands and they are competing for a UEFA cup place!

Neeskens !!!!
I met him a few times !
Cruyff , any time . . . those were the glory days . . .
Am I turning this thread into something else ? :rolleyes:
Iwan , help !!!
Where's the Cindy related topic ? :o

[Phil Lawton]

Iwan

Are you from Nijmegen? I once stayed there for a week (I was on a training course) in the late 80s and had a wonderful time.

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
Iwan

Are you from Nijmegen? I once stayed there for a week (I was on a training course) in the late 80s and had a wonderful time.

Training ? Phil , you always surprise me !
A footballer as well ! ;)

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Brett
Forca Barca

There's always Brett to trust :D


Music , music . . .:rolleyes:

[Iwan]

Phil... I'm from a town about 25 kms to the south of there. But then again the Netherlands is/are just a small country, which you don't really realize when you're living there.

Actually NEC played Barcelona in 2nd round of the Cup Winners Cup about 20 years ago. "We" were up 2-0 in Nijmegen but lost 2-3 anyway.... too bad!! Even in Nou Camp we had some chance...


And MJ the topic is still Cindy related:

Sharp -> Man United -> Dutch Soccerplayers -> Barcelona -> Neeskens -> Nijmegen ->

We just have to bring it back to Cindytalk...

[Phil Lawton]

A footballer as well !

You have far greater expectations of me than I can ever possibly fulfill, Emm.

No, I was in computers at the time.

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton


You have far greater expectations of me than I can ever possibly fulfill, Emm.

No, I was in computers at the time.

Killjoy . . .

[cinder]

no! do us all a favour and keep the topic on the football,
that way i can sneak out the back door.it's time for me to
bugger off anyway.i can sense i've outstayed my welcome,
eh phil... but before i leave can i trump all your favourite
teams [unless we got juve & milan fans on here that is]
by wishing my beloved team,glasgow celtic all the best on
wednesday night in seville for their uefa cup final against
porto.we'll be underdogs but i'll still be screaming for a win
in the wee sma oors in hong kong.

you are our larsson our henrik larsson....

hail hail & cheerio
cinderflame x

[Maria Jose]

You are not overstaying !!!!!
I think we can keep this thread here just for you , can't we mmmender ? ;)

[Maria Jose]

[i]Originally posted by cinder
teams [unless we got juve & milan fans on here that is]


I just hate an all Italian Champions final . . .


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38265000/jpg/_38265897_larsson_firstgoal_300x180.jpg

[Brett]

Originally posted by cinder
no! do us all a favour and keep the topic on the football,
that way i can sneak out the back door.it's time for me to
bugger off anyway.i can sense i've outstayed my welcome,
eh phil... but before i leave can i trump all your favourite
teams [unless we got juve & milan fans on here that is]
by wishing my beloved team,glasgow celtic all the best on
wednesday night in seville for their uefa cup final against
porto.we'll be underdogs but i'll still be screaming for a win
in the wee sma oors in hong kong.

you are our larsson our henrik larsson....

hail hail & cheerio
cinderflame x

Don't you dare you warbling genius.
Good luck to the mint-hooped ones. But you can't trump Pompey this season cos we won the league!!!! Oh yes.
Well, erm, unless you (cough) win the league too. :o

:D

Brett
x

[Iwan]

Yeah Cindy.... feel free to roam these boards. I'm with MJ.... give this man his own forum! Outstaying your welcome? Don't be silly... unless you have no time because you're busy soundscaping.

And I better not mention the Celtic bit here at work... all these Portuguese people I work with are supporting Porto a bit too enthousiastic.

[Maria Jose]

i also support Porto , hip , but the other kind , hip . Cheers !:D

[Iwan]

MJ... are you TRYING to keep Cindy around?

[REPLICESS]

Originally posted by cinder
it's time for me to bugger off anyway.i can sense i've outstayed my welcome,

hail hail & cheerio
cinderflame x

That would be a shame, hope to 'see' you again soon .... ?

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Iwan
MJ... are you TRYING to keep Cindy around?

You can ask him , I think he's got his PM box full of msgs begging him to stay!
And if he doesn't , well , I 'll have someone else to strangle at wish . . .;)

[Maria Jose]

Cindy , dear !
Clean your mailbox !

And the moon , the clouds , reason and the stars ...

[REPLICESS]

He's been busy chatting *oops* ;)

[Phil Lawton]

Cinder

Celtic? My second team! Gan yersel' the Bhoys!

[Iwan]

Originally posted by Maria Jose
Cindy , dear !
Clean your mailbox !

And the moon , the clouds , reason and the stars ...

MJ.... same goes for you!! Clean your mailbox! NOW!

[Maria Jose]

Sorry !
Ready . . .

[Iwan]

BTW.... the NOW! part refers to our little discussion from yesterday and is certainly not my usual way of dealing with people.

[Maria Jose]

Indeed , you paraphraser !
Remember , northern Europe , southern europe . . . Now !
roflmao roflmao

[Iwan]

I just want everyone else to know that I am not being mean to MJ here... even though she threatened to strangle me :p

[Maria Jose]

But softly . . . :D

[Iwan]

Yeah.... I know.... I guess I will sleep well tonight :D

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by by the sea


did you and liz think that one up?

...it looks like i'll be making that trip to hong kong afterall.


Nice title , yes! I missed your post , BTS . . .
Too excited with the beautiful game , I s'ppose! :D

[cinder]

oh-k so i look stupit! i found the door but it was locked
& when i tried to force it the handle came off in ma hand.

jings crivvens an' help ma boab! [cor blimey! if yer a cockerney]

no,neither lizbeth nor me can take any credit for the above
[wonderful] line... it's from a song that we celtic supporters
sing.it's an old irish folk song called "the fields of athenry".
it has an exquisite melody and being celts we're no bad at
singing it either ;-P

listen out for it if any of you watch the game on wednesday.

traaaaa
cx

the fields of athenry

By a lonely prison wall, I heard a young girl calling
"Michael, they have taken you away,
For you stole Trevelyan's corn,
So the young might see the morn.
Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay."

Chorus:
Low lie the fields of Athenry
Where once we watched the small free birds fly
Our love was on the wing
We had dreams and songs to sing
It's so lonely round the fields of Athenry.

By a lonely prison wall, I heard a young man calling
"Nothing matters, Mary, when you're free
Against the famine and the crown,
I rebelled, they cut me down.
Now you must raise our child with dignity."

Chorus

By a lonely harbor wall, she watched the last star falling
As the prison ship sailed out against the sky
For she lived to hope and pray for her love in Botany Bay
It's so lonely round the fields of Athenry.

Chorus

[Maria Jose]

Oh , the singing that goes on in football stadiums !
A genre of its own !

ballerina

[Phil Lawton]

MJ

Who could forget those other timeless football classics:

"You're gonna get your f*ckin' 'ead kicked in!"

Or

"Who ate all the pies?
Who ate all the pies?
YOU fat bastard! YOU fat bastard!"

Or the deeply philosophical

"Who's the bastard in the black?
Who's the bastard in the black?
Who's the ba-a-astard in the black?"

And the deeply political

"You're not singing any more
You're not singing any more
You're not si-i-inging any more!"

Tennyson couldn't have topped any of those, as I'm sure you'll agree.

[Maria Jose]

Celtic invaders discern heady virtues in the forgotten cup

Kevin McCarra
Tuesday May 20, 2003
The Guardian

The Uefa Cup final in Seville tomorrow is already a phenomenon. The Spanish transport system is seizing up under its demands and, with trains fully booked, 3,000 Celtic supporters are reported to be travelling from Malaga on mopeds. That line of scooters is only one short column of the invasion force.

With awe and concern, officials at the Glasgow club guess that 80,000 of their fans will storm the Andalucian city, even though they probably hold no more than 35,000 of the 52,000 tickets. All this for the final of Europe's wallflower tournament.



Flamenco a go- go !!!!

[Maria Jose]

Sorry to start with Man U . . .

MANCHESTER UNITED

(Tune: The Entertainer)
Follow, follow, follow
Cos United are going to Glasgow
There'll be thousands of Reds
Without tickets or beds
Cos United are going to Glasgow

(Tune: Love Will Tear Us Apart)
Giggs, Giggs will tear you apart, again
Giggs, Giggs will tear you apart, again

(Tune: Seasons in the Sun)
We had joy we had fun
Juan Sebastien Veron
He's got flair but no hair
He's an Argy we don't care

(Tune: Volare)
Vieira, oh oh
Vieira, oh oh oh oh
He gave Giggsy the ball
And Arsenal won f**k all

(Tune: You Are My Sunshine)
You are my Solskjaer, my Ole Solskaer
You make me happy when skies are grey
And Alan Shearer was f**king dearer
Oh please don't take my Solskjaer away

NEWCASTLE UNITED

(Tune: When the Saints going marching in)
When Geordie goes marching home again (hurrah, hurrah)
When Geordie goes marching home again (hurrah, hurrah) Boro get beat, the Mackems gan doon but we all follow the Toon
And we all go marching when Geordie goes marching home


(Tune: Sailing)
We are the Geordies
The Cock of the North
We all hate Sunderland
And Boro of course
We all drink whiskey
And Newcastle Brown
The Geordie boys are in town
N and an E and a W-C
A and an S and a T-L-E
U-N-I-T-E-D
Newcastle United FC, FC, FC, FC

RANGERS

(Tune Happiness, a tribute to Inverness Caledonian beating Celtic)
Oh Happiness, happiness
The greatest gift that I possess
I thank the team from Inverness
For bringing me so much happiness

SCOTLAND

(Tune: Hokey Cokey)
You put your left arm in
Your left arm out
In out
In out
Shake it all about
Diego Maradona and you turn around
Cos that's who put England out out out
Oh, Diego Maradona
Oh Deigo Maradona
Oh Diego Maradona
Cos that's who put England out! out! out!

Etc , etc . . .

Yeah , Tennyson . . .:rolleyes:

[Phil Lawton]

Emm

Someone will have suffered for those pieces of art.

[Maria Jose]

My musical taste has !

[Brett]

More William Blake-esque football related prose. (From the Portsmouth area of Southern England)

Play up pompey
Pompey play up

You are my portsmouth, my only portsmouth
You make me happy when skys are gray
I never noticed how much I loved you
Until you take my portsmouth away
LA LA LA LA OHH
I'm portsmouth till i die
I,m portsmouth till i die
I know i am, i,m sure i am
I,m portsmouth till i die

Stand up if you hate the scum
Stand up if you hate the scum

If you all hate the scummers clap your hands
If you all hate the scummers clap your hands
If you all hate the scummers, all hate the scummers,
all hate the scummers clap your hands
If you really fucking hate them clap your hands
If you really fucking hate them clap your hands
If you really fucking hate them, really fucking hate them,
really fucking hate them clap your hands

We hate southampton, we hate southampton
we hate scum we hate scum

Hes just apoor little scummer
Hes face is all tattered and torn
He made me feel sick so i hit him with a brick
And now he dont sing no more

Hello hello we are the portsmouth boys
Hello hello we are the portsmouth boys
And if you are a scummer fan surrender or you'll die

(Can you spot any repetitive themes yet?)


Have you ever seen a beach?
Have you ever seen a beach

We all follow the portsmouth
Over land and sea and Sainsburys
Following the portsmouth where ever they may be
Altogether now

Scum are going down
Scum are going down
Super pompey going up
Super pompey going up

One man went to kill, went to kill a scummer
One man and his baseball bat went to kill a scummer
Two men went to kill, went to kill a scummer

Super Steves Blue and White Army
Super Steves Blue and White Army

Super Super Stevie
Super Super Stevie
Super Super Stevie
Super Stevie Claridge

I have seen the glory of the lights of fratton park, the lights of fratton park
I have seen the glory of the lights of fratton park
As the blues go marching on on on
Glory glory portsmouth city
Glory glory portsmouth city
Glory glory portsmouth city as the blues go marchig on on on

Run scum whereever you may be
We are the famous pfc
We dont give a fuck whoever you maybe
We are the famous pfc

Down the pub friday night
Getting absouletly plastered
Go back home and beat your wife
You dirty northen bastards

E I E I E I O,
up the football league we go,
when we win promotion
this is what we'll sing,
we are Portsmouth!
We are Portsmouth!
Harry is our king.

Harry & Jim,
Harry & Jim,
Harry & Jim...

If you all hate scummers,
all hate scummers,
all hate scummers clap your hands.
If you really fucking hate them clap your hands,
if you really fucking hate them clap your hands,
if you really fucking hate them,
really fucking hate them,
really fucking hate them clap your hands.

Super Pompey going up!
Scummers going down,
scummers going down!
Super Pompey going up,
Scummers going down!

(So sorry about this next part, it is NOT me I swear)

Ohh Scum is fucking shite,
its full of blacks, queers,
and paki's...Ohh Scum is fucking shite!


Harry Redknapps blue & white army,
Harry Redknapps blue & white army!

Milan theres only one Milan,
theres only one Milan!

Cheer up Gordon Strachan,
oh what can it mean
to a sad scummer bastard and a shit football team!

'Arry 'Arry give us a wave,
'Arry give us a wave!

He's only a poor little scummer
His face is all tattered and torn,
He made me feel sick so I hit him with a brick
And now he don't sing anymore...

Fuck off Millwall!
Fuck off Millwall!

Shall we sing a song for you!
Shall we sing a song for you!

Blue Army, Blue Army, Blue Army!

[Phil Lawton]

And they wonder why the British football fan has a bad reputation in some parts of the world.

Anyway....who is it you support, B?

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by Phil Lawton
[B]And they wonder why the British football fan has a bad reputation in some parts of the world.

Except in Japan , that is !
I was quite involved in the whole World Cup affair,if anybody you knew came to Osaka,
they heard my voice on the PA here and there
Everyone was horrified , there were seminars for shop owners on how to deal with hooligan violence , etc .
Then they came and blended ever so nicely in the oh - how-polite atmosphere and became the "amiable army " . . .
Not to mention the Becks love affair .

[Iwan]

Except for the obligatory 'hi ha hondelul' (which translates as "di da dogs' dick") I don't know any Dutch stadium chants and this is mostly directed at referees. And it certainly doesn't achieve any level of prose whatsoever. Except for parts of the Portsmouth chants that is.

We all have to thank Cindy for bringing up football in this thread :D

MJ... bring it back to the music please.

[Maria Jose]

[i]Originally posted by Iwan
MJ... bring it back to the music please. [/B]

Just what I was thinking . . . Let me think ! :rolleyes:

[Iwan]

So... Cindy... if Celtic wins tomorrow... are you going to record a Celtic song???

[Maria Jose]

Oh , so that was what you meant by music and
here I am racking my brains . . .

http://www.idolos-store.com/Camisetas/Equipos%20extranjeros/Celtic%20camiseta%201.JPG

[Brett]

I actually used to like Rangers! :D (ducks)

When I was a kid I turned on World of Sport and saw Pompey (which was unheard of because we were in Division 4). Then I saw they were playing WELL and I knew it wasn't Portsmouth but someone else in our kit. Liked em ever since.

Sorry Cindy

luv
Brett
(Tells it how it is)

Oops, this is supposed to be music.

[Iwan]

Well... it could be music right? Bagpipes and everything... sampling Henrik Larson...

[Brett]

Guitars like bagpipes?

Oh no, can't be.......

[Maria Jose]

So back to the music means Big Country ?!?!

[Maria Jose]

Celtic . . . :(
Maybe next time . . .
But our Larsson rules on !

[kookaburra]

Hey, is Gordon Sharp the chick in the pics on the Cindytalk web site?

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by kookaburra
Hey, is Gordon Sharp the chick in the pics on the Cindytalk web site?

The very same one !
I'm now working on an outfit exchange . . .
I wear some of those and he gets my kimono !


Kookaburra , welcome back !!!!!
How have you been ?

[Iwan]

First thing I heard at work was the Porto win over Celtic.... He is from Porto you see :D

[kookaburra]

Thanks, MJ. I must say, he is quite a hot little number in those silky frocks.

My vacation was less than I'd expected. I went on a quest for the Holy Grail and settled for a clean McDonald's in a country in which it's not a faux pas to flush your soiled paper down the toilet. I also learned a fancy new dance.

[Maria Jose]

Originally posted by kookaburra
[B]Thanks, MJ. I must say, he is quite a hot little number in those silky frocks.

Yes , yes , those silky frocks , those are the ones I want !

ballerina

[kookaburra]

Originally posted by Maria Jose


Yes , yes , those silky frocks , those are the ones I want !

ballerina

Perhaps you should speak with bts. As you know, your wish is his command.

[Maria Jose]

As I recall from another thread , he might be on his way to Hong Kong now . . .
roflmao roflmao roflmao

[Iwan]

What's all this FRENZY about??? Music please!

[Maria Jose]

Indeed , Iwan !
When are we getting our "milk bottles " ? :D


ballerina

[Iwan]

Ask your milkman! roflmao

[Maria Jose]

The milkman is busy trying to fix delivery through his rebellious computer !
Shall we switch brands ? :D

[Iwan]

How 'bout chocolate milk?

Maybe I'll just go to the store and get my fix.... it won't be the same though.

[Maria Jose]

Nah , he'll come round any minute . . .
Hell , he should be already here !

[Iwan]

I heard from a reliable source that ANOTHER potential milkman might be browsing these boards???

Work your charm MJ!!

[Maria Jose]

Ingredients :
Serpentskin (two pieces) ,1 peppermint pig,50cc love's easy tears, 100 grs Melonella , a pinch of rococo , 3 Sugar Hiccups , some squeeze wax and a few fluffy tufts .
Mix well , stir . . . Add . . . God ! All these magic books are so heavy . . .
Just working on it !

[Iwan]

I think you need a little bit more Iceblink Luck to pull it off...

[Iwan]

And watch out for those fumes.... I don't want you to end up Blind, Dumb and Deaf

[Maria Jose]

So that was it then , blast !
The convenience store closed just now . . .
Let me check that drawer in the kitchen . . .:rolleyes:

[Iwan]

Maybe you should have it delivered? I'm pretty sure every milkman carries that around too...