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mmmender
Dec-4-02, 4:46 PM
doing my book research i was reading this old issue of Reflex Magazine from 1988. in the interview robin talked about the name cocteau twins and i just thought i'd post what he said here in case some of you are still in the dark about it or are new to the band:

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Softspoken yet unyielding, Robin Guthrie speaks the most and says the least. For example, try probing him about the origin of the group's name, and Robin begins an explanation reluctantly. "It's a long story. There were these two gay blokes who were into Jean Cocteau and they were known and the Cocteau Twins..." His voice fades off, and he does not want to continue.

Robin will divulge only so much information. However, he readily states "if there was one thing I could change it would be that name...when we picked it, it was just the name of the band, and people started reading all these things into it." Robin projects the feeling their name is a sort of kink in the machinery, yet he invites just the sort of probing reflections the Twins appear to constantly shirk. As with almost all else, the relevance of the namesake is minimized. "It's just one of those inconsequential little things," sighs Elizabeth. Or is it?

The late Jean Cocteau was the author of the classic Les Enfants Terribles, a story of two brothers and a sister - ironically named Elizabeth - creating an alternate reality. Cocteau's films and writings offer an ideal component to their musical interpretation. The connection is obvious once one sees a film like Beauty and The Beast or Orpheus - with their surreal imagery and off-beat moodiness - it's difficult to term the association irrelevant.

Phil Lawton
Dec-4-02, 6:22 PM
Did Robin enlighten anyone as to why there were three of the Thompson Twins, though?

Goldarnit, we need answers.

someotherian
Dec-4-02, 7:30 PM
Originally posted by Phil Lawton
Did Robin enlighten anyone as to why there were three of the Thompson Twins, though?
... or about whether alannah currie used special make-up to make herself look extra ugly? lol! (canned laughter there just for you phil ;))

dynamine
Dec-4-02, 7:46 PM
i think it's funny how you hear about the "obscure" simple minds
song,and then for him(robin) to say it was gay blokes into
jean cocteau.i have les enfants terribles too,and it is
a great read,along w/the stranger(albert camus)who was once used in the same sentence as the Twins,but that would be anotherthread.does it really matter though?,just like the lyrics(for some),or the origin of the band itself, was it Grangemouth,or
Falkirk,Scotland.to me,it was all about the music."the three
dimentional soundscape of shimmering guitars and a struggling,
questing voice."-OPTION may/june 1987.

mmmender
Dec-4-02, 9:45 PM
the name is indeed from a simple minds song.......it's just that in the song those fellow scotts are singing about those 2 gay blokes!!;)

Baba O'Reilly
Dec-5-02, 8:45 AM
someotherian

Valid point about Alannah Currie, although I don't think the canned laughter was necessary.

someotherian
Dec-5-02, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by someotherian

... or about whether alannah currie used special make-up to make herself look extra ugly? lol! (canned laughter there just for you phil ;))

christian, did you not read the last part of my post?

mmmender
Dec-5-02, 12:15 PM
hey ian you made one of those amputee smilies again!

;)) poor invalid smirky bastard

(;)) standard sarky bastard

(((;))) sarky spider?

someotherian
Dec-5-02, 12:42 PM
ha ha, so i did!
;)) could also be one-legged (or 4-legged?) spider, blinded in one eye..

either way, what's he got to look so happy about? :) (btw that's a no-legged spider, but still enjoying life)

*ian hesitates to type 'lol' in case..* shit, too late!