Cocteau Twins: Vinyl vs. Vinyl

mmmender · Sep-24-06, 6:02 AM

Many CT fans have argued that the Japanese vinyl releases sound better than their North American counterparts. It's been said that the Japanese editions are: warmer, crisper, cleaner or louder. What do you think?

dprid · Sep-24-06, 6:47 AM

Don't think I've ever played any of my Japanese pressings.

TwinsFan · Sep-25-06, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dprid

Don't think I've ever played any of my Japanese pressings.

Well, get on it, Captain! This poll can't wait forever...

I, myself, have no CT vinyl, Japanese or otherwise.

John

dprid · Sep-25-06, 4:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsFan

Well, get on it, Captain! This poll can't wait forever...

I, myself, have no CT vinyl, Japanese or otherwise.

John

That's why I voted that I'd never heard any of them

Phil Lawton · Sep-25-06, 6:23 AM

This thread may be a little too CT-geeky for the general populace here.

moeism · Sep-25-06, 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Lawton

This thread may be a little too CT-geeky for the general populace here.

agreed.

JohnnyV · Sep-25-06, 2:12 PM

what's vinyl?

Mr. ED · Sep-25-06, 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV

what's vinyl?

you side your house with it.

Phil Lawton · Sep-25-06, 6:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mmmender

Many CT fans have argued that the Japanese vinyl releases sound better than their North American counterparts.

"Many"?

Yers...I'm sick of reading heated debates in here on that very subject.

(Someone call the police now)

kaini · Sep-25-06, 6:31 PM

Everytime I hear someone saying that Japanese vinyl version are just as good as American pressings, it gets me out of mind pretty badly.

rufusmtvern · Sep-27-06, 12:27 AM

I've never heard the japanese editions, but what I've learned is that U.K. vinyl from 4AD (and assuming japanese also) is made with a substantially thicker vinyl than the ones in north america. This usually means deeper grooves and a better sound with less long term wear. I realized this years ago when comparing my import of Filigree and Shadow with a canadian produced ct ep I bought.

andylama · Sep-27-06, 1:14 AM

Really? That totally contradicts my own experience!

Back in the 80s when I was buying lots of vinyl (easily half of it was imported from UK/Europe), I found that the UK stuff was generally more throwaway-quality. US vinyl was heavy, with the protective lip, whereas the UK/EU stuff was generally thinner (would droop if you held it from one side) and rarely has the lip. US jackets are printed on heavy gauge white card stock, and the UK/EU jackets were often (but not always) printed on that thin, rough, brown trash paper with a white veneer over it. And my big pet peeve: UK inner sleeves are almost always folded inside-out, with the rough surface against the disc, and the shiny side on the outside! DUHHH! Shoddy stuff, folks.

Of course, it may be different, now that vinyl is becoming a boutique thing.

Japanese vinyl has always had a good reputation, and I think it's well founded, though I have never owned any CT vinyl pressed in Japan. Their standard pressing is what the rest of the world calls "audiophile quality". The relatively few Japanese records I've ever owned all sounded really great, even if the music was shitty in retrospect.

kookaburra · Sep-27-06, 1:25 AM

I buy CDs these days.

mmmender · Sep-27-06, 3:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Lawton

This thread may be a little too CT-geeky for the general populace here.

Duly noted.

Phil Lawton · Sep-27-06, 4:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mmmender

Duly noted.

Geek.

mmmender · Sep-27-06, 4:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Lawton

Geek.

You know talk like that just turns me on.

Phil Lawton · Sep-27-06, 4:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mmmender

You know talk like that just turns me on.

I do what I can.

mmmender · Sep-27-06, 4:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Lawton

I do what I can.

Don't I know it.

dprid · Sep-27-06, 6:30 AM

If we can't have CT Geek-Talk here then where can we have it?

Phil Lawton · Sep-27-06, 6:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dprid

If we can't have CT Geek-Talk here then where can we have it?

Fair point, but it's nothing to be proud of, Dave.

Now wash your hands, you know where they've been.

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andylama Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 23,249 Rep Power: 57	Really? That totally contradicts my own experience! Back in the 80s when I was buying lots of vinyl (easily half of it was imported from UK/Europe), I found that the UK stuff was generally more throwaway-quality. US vinyl was heavy, with the protective lip, whereas the UK/EU stuff was generally thinner (would droop if you held it from one side) and rarely has the lip. US jackets are printed on heavy gauge white card stock, and the UK/EU jackets were often (but not always) printed on that thin, rough, brown trash paper with a white veneer over it. And my big pet peeve: UK inner sleeves are almost always folded inside-out, with the rough surface against the disc, and the shiny side on the outside! DUHHH! Shoddy stuff, folks. Of course, it may be different, now that vinyl is becoming a boutique thing. Japanese vinyl has always had a good reputation, and I think it's well founded, though I have never owned any CT vinyl pressed in Japan. Their standard pressing is what the rest of the world calls "audiophile quality". The relatively few Japanese records I've ever owned all sounded really great, even if the music was shitty in retrospect.

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